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Who is in the wrong? Car one with diagram

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ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 11:44

Its not a great one, but I know the rules so there is a diagram attached.

One way car park with arrows marking the route. One way in/out so as you go to exit you give way to anyone coming in (red line).

Yellow cross car stops at give way line, sees no one is coming in and goes. Green car going wrong way on one way, crash.

Interested in thoughts, will obviously be down to insurance companies.

The give way bit isn’t a sign but two rows of dotted lines if that makes any difference…

Who is in the wrong? Car one with diagram
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Hoppinggreen · 30/09/2024 11:48

Well it looks on first glance as green as they were going the wrong way BUT I would want to know where the cars hit - if front of yellow it suggests they may have seen Green if they looked properly but in rear it suggests that Green drove into them as they weren't paying attention.
Insurance companies may well just fo 50/50

GiantHornets · 30/09/2024 11:48

It’ll go 50/50. Yellow car shouldn’t have assumed nothing was coming from the right and should have looked.
I’ve always considered one way systems in car parks to be advisory as so many drivers ignore them

Mrsttcno1 · 30/09/2024 11:48

Car parks are private so the “wrong way” in law is a bit irrelevant really. I would say 75/25, with 75 being the car who did not check both ways before coming out, 25 to the car going the “wrong” way as careless.

Seeline · 30/09/2024 11:50

Yellow car should still have checked both ways - what if it were a pedestrian walking across?
But yes, if a private carpark, not public highway, it's all a bit vague, so will probably go 50/50

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 30/09/2024 11:53

Yellow car is at fault - it's your responability to make sure the road is clear when pulling out, even for vehicles coming from the "wrong" direction

ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 11:53

Crash happened after the lines. I'm yellow - didn't look right so thinking it probably is my mistake really.

I use the car park every day and am so used to the one way I didn't even think to look.

Eugh.

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ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 11:55

Doesn't stop me being pissed off at the woman going the wrong way to save herself literally 30 seconds though 😂

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InTheRainOnATrain · 30/09/2024 11:56

50:50 probably. Yellow really should have looked the other way too because what about pedestrians. Green shouldn’t have been driving the wrong way.

mushpush · 30/09/2024 11:57

If you didn't look right and check for oncoming traffic I would say it's the yellow cars fault for pulling out on an oncoming vehicle - regardless of them going the wrong way on a one way system which is obviously wrong - you didn't actually give way by checking both ways.

We were in a similar accident (not green or yellow) and the party found 100% at fault was the one who didn't check both ways before pulling out, on a dotted yield line.

Seeline · 30/09/2024 11:59

ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 11:53

Crash happened after the lines. I'm yellow - didn't look right so thinking it probably is my mistake really.

I use the car park every day and am so used to the one way I didn't even think to look.

Eugh.

That goodness it was a car at low speed that you hit rather than a child or other pedestrian!!

ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 12:02

Good point on the child / pedestrian thing.

Obviously don't want to be hitting anyone but no one was hurt and she's got a load of inconvenience for going the wrong way 😉

There is literally nowhere for anyone to walk that's in front of the lines, just the road entrance / exit then the main road so never seen a pedestrian there but I guess you never know.

Needless to say will be checking every time from now on.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 30/09/2024 12:05

Your fault for not looking before pulling out.

Seeline · 30/09/2024 12:10

There is literally nowhere for anyone to walk that's in front of the lines, just the road entrance / exit then the main road so never seen a pedestrian there but I guess you never know.

So once you have parked, how do people leave the car park? There must be pedestrians wandering around.

LIZS · 30/09/2024 12:12

Yellow did not give way, regardless of direction green was going.

ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 12:13

@Seeline there's a separate pedestrian exit in the top right corner which has a zebra crossing over the road.

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Seeline · 30/09/2024 12:16

ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 12:13

@Seeline there's a separate pedestrian exit in the top right corner which has a zebra crossing over the road.

So people returning to their cars parked on the left hand side of the carpark would likely be walking across the give way line from the right?

stanleypops66 · 30/09/2024 12:17

Yellow was more at fault. I am guilty of driving the wrong way in a car park. Sometimes the signage it's just not very clear.

PennyApril54 · 30/09/2024 12:17

I think if there is a one way sign then green is at fault . If not then probably the other car for not looking in both directions.

ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 12:18

@Seeline diagram is a bit shit from that perspective sorry, cars parked on the left would all be behind where you stop to give way. There's a bush on the left of where I was stopped.

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ItsAnotherCarOne · 30/09/2024 12:19

@stanleypops66 you absolutely cannot miss the fact it's one way. It was all redone about 6 months ago both painting on the road and signs up. Also as you come in and look for a space it's obvious. There's not really space for cars to go both directions past each other.

Point taken I should have looked though.

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SummerFade · 30/09/2024 12:32

To be honest, I can’t understand why you didn’t automatically look right and check for pedestrians and cars before pulling out?

Presumably anyone could have been walking between the parked cars to get to their own car or to go shopping? Surely looking in both directions is an automatic reflex?

Even entering a one-way street, you should still look both ways just in case there’s someone on a bike or scooter going in the wrong direction.

It’s all very well feeling righteous and arguing about whose fault it is, but imagine if you’d actually hit someone? I was a pedestrian who was hit by a careless driver who didn’t want the points on her licence so plead not guilty and took it to court and tried to argue that I was somehow at fault. She lost but the sheer arrogance of the bloody woman.

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