Is this clean?

[LazyRainyDayz]

I have a friend that drops into conversation that she is a 'clean person' fairly often. The thing is, she isn't!
Her house is grotty, not squalor but I have never seen it sparkle. There are always bits on the floor, a tide mark around the bath, crumbs on kitchen work surfaces and stains in the loo. There are always streaks of toothpaste in the bathroom sink.
I don't consider this clean but she obviously does and is happy to brag about how clean she is, I don't get it. Is she trying to convince me she is clean or is she trying to convince herself? Do you consider this to be clean?

Clean can be so many things though. Personal hygiene, regular laundry, hand hygiene, food hygiene.
From what you’ve said I wouldn’t say it was spotless, but sounds “messy” rather than “dirty”?
Have you ever made a comment about something (innocently or not) and she’s trying to justify herself?

Tbf I probably wouldn't notice this kind of thing unless someone keeps on going on about it then I'd probably see it

I had a friend that had a habit of saying they can write a great email or letter but in reality they were ok but certainly great.
They definitely didn't understand how to use paragraphs.

People have different views on what is clean and what is not clean. I wouldn’t say what you describe is clean to my standards however what does it matter?

Everyone gets a grimy ring round their bathtub and toilet stains now and again. It's when they get left, it builds up. Unless a person lives childfree and instantly cleans up after themselves then I think some level of mess is inevitable. It doesn't mean they're not going to clean up and make it sparkle.

I never get stains in my loo and scum round my bath as the bath is cleaned after every use and the bogs are given a squirt of bleach and a wipe most days.

You won't leave my house without cat hair all over you though

Doesn't sounds clean. But as the others say it's about what someone's idea of clean is.

Does it matter? I just let foibles roll off me if I enjoy the person's company.

What I meant is someone might leave a skid mark ( probably one of my kids) or there might be grime in the bath after someone's had a bath but I'll clean it soon after noticing it. In the mornings before we leave for school I'll have to leave the breakfast dishes, crumbs and toothpaste stains in the sink as I don't have time to clean that till I get back home after dropping them off. So if someone came round right then, they'd think the place was a mess. But two hours of housework later, you'd think it was almost immaculate.

Perhaps not judge and then the women of the world won’t feel that they have to justify themselves and the level of housework they do?
my house varies in that it can be spotlessly clean or a hovel, depending on my mood/level of motivation/ how busy I am at work. I’ve got to the stage in my life now where I feel that if the other people who live in the house are not bothered enough to clean things, then sometimes neither am I.

I haven't ever said anything as far as I am aware!
It started after she came to my house for a cup of tea and a natter, I knew she was coming so I had the house as clean as possible as I would for any guest (she also knew when I was visiting her so had the same opportunity to straighten things up but didn't, I wasn't there to judge her home and didn't care as it wasn't horrendous!!)
It's getting to the point that every time I see her she mentions how clean she is, I am purposely avoiding any conversation about home interiors now as somehow even the colour of a wall gets turned into how clean she is....