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Kids asked to stand for headteacher

318 replies

Worcswarrior · 16/09/2024 13:01

So dd has just started high school. There is an expectation that the students stand up when the headteacher enters the assembly hall. Is this not a bit draconian in 2024?

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MadCatWoman7 · 16/09/2024 14:33

Had to meet a couple of relatives recently I hadn't seen in six years and they were so rude they didn't even bother to stand up when their daughter brought me into the room. They always were rude and ignorant and I thought to myself: No wonder I haven't seen you for six years and hopefully not for another six!

Goldbar · 16/09/2024 14:33

Aside from the good manners point, it's probably useful for the point of view of shaking the kids up a bit and giving them a bit of movement.

I used to get very sleepy in afternoon lessons at school if I found them boring to the extent that I'd be continuously pinching myself under the table. I liked it if the head or another adult came in and we had to stand as it woke me up a bit and helped me concentrate.

Flossyts · 16/09/2024 14:34

It’s probably a good way to get them to stop chatting and pay attention.

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JoshLymanSwagger · 16/09/2024 14:36

You stand when a Teacher enters the classroom, let alone the Head.

Not draconian, just basic manners.

user47 · 16/09/2024 14:37

😂

EI12 · 16/09/2024 14:40

If they are not at Borstal, this is the norm.

ijustneedtokeepbreathing · 16/09/2024 14:42

Totally fine. It's manners and a sign of respect. My DS is in y9 and has to do it at the start of every lesson when the teacher arrives. And I did exactly the same in the late 1990s.

Total non-issue.

LadyLovesToBoogie · 16/09/2024 14:45

BeyondMyWits · 16/09/2024 13:08

Our local school requires students to line up outside the classroom in alphabetical order, walk in, greeting the teacher, stand behind their chairs and wait to be told to be seated.

Sent mine elsewhere as the kids looked miserable.

Oh your poor children, fancy them having to go through the misery of greeting a teacher and having to wait until they were told to be seated. Such a hardship!
You need to give your head a shake, your parenting skills are dire, they were being taught respect in a teaching environment where they need to listen and observe in order to learn the skills and rules of life as well as receiving an education.

PemberleynotWemberley · 16/09/2024 14:46

Next they'll be expected to take their feet off the desk.
Personally I'd be concerned if this basic mark of respect and good order were not happening.

Petitchat · 16/09/2024 14:47

SerafinasGoose · 16/09/2024 14:24

This falls strictly under the category of 'small stuff'.

I have far greater concerns about the draconian uniform rules, disregard for bullying victims and schools' seeming incapability of implementing their own anti-bullying policies, not to mention complete lack of funding in some LEAs for kids who desperately need diagnosis of a learning disability and then have to pay £300-600 for a report - sometimes more than one - or find they cannot access the help they need. I'm concerned with the teaching profession having downgraded in so many respects - in some cases with an appalling culture of bullying and mismanagement - to the point that it's haemorrhaging staff and struggling to attract high quality teachers to the profession in the first place.

Standing when the Head enters the assembly hall is the least issue with education that even enters on my radar.

I think differently.

I feel that in this mess of an education system nowadays, this "small stuff" is one of the last respectful things we have left.

We need to hang on to it.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 16/09/2024 14:47

It teaches children respect. Hardly Draconian.

LadyLovesToBoogie · 16/09/2024 14:48

PemberleynotWemberley · 16/09/2024 14:46

Next they'll be expected to take their feet off the desk.
Personally I'd be concerned if this basic mark of respect and good order were not happening.

PemberletnotWemberley…
I totally agree, what’s wrong with these parents?

HateSpewingTurnip · 16/09/2024 14:48

As if people expect family to stand when they grace the room 😂

Reugny · 16/09/2024 14:48

MagpiePi · 16/09/2024 13:58

Gosh yes.
How dreadful for them to have to receive a free education!

Lets become one of those countries where everyone pays for schooling and charities are set up to educate children desperate to pull themselves out of poverty.

To be fair it would improve behaviour in schools and possibly focus - unless the children are too hungry to concentrate.

LadyLovesToBoogie · 16/09/2024 14:48

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 16/09/2024 14:47

It teaches children respect. Hardly Draconian.

Agree!

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 16/09/2024 14:49

I remember this being brought into a secondary school where I used to teach around ten years ago. Loads of the older kids refused to stand and it was hugely embarrassing for everyone watching.

KnickerlessParsons · 16/09/2024 14:50

I always stand when an older person comes into the room, as does DH.

cuckooooooo · 16/09/2024 14:50

Reugny · 16/09/2024 14:48

To be fair it would improve behaviour in schools and possibly focus - unless the children are too hungry to concentrate.

How many parents are sending their kids in without being fed?

SerafinasGoose · 16/09/2024 14:51

LostittoBostik · 16/09/2024 13:11

They do it partly because it resets the group and shuts everyone up.

It's not draconian. It's crowd management.

Absolutely this. Anyone who's recently been in a whole assembly hall full of chattering kids will be well aware of the cacophony of noise that creates. Without some signal that business is about to begin you'd need a klaxon to shut them up.

As far as I can see, kids are not expected to stand at the beginning of every class when the teacher arrives, nor to surge to their feet and bow when the Head happens to pass them on the stairs or in the playing field. It's just a cue to get things started.

Amazing the trivialities some parents will extend their energies in complaining about. I prefer to save mine for the things that matter.

Imperfectionist · 16/09/2024 14:54

Tinkerbellflowers · 16/09/2024 13:59

Everyone should respect everyone equally, no matter their position/job. Are the children expected to stand for the caretaker? I expect not.

Yes at my kids school the children stand for any adult who comes into the room. This includes the caretaker.

Disrespect to dinner ladies in particular gets short shrift (as there’s a clear gender aspect in terms of teens being more likely to act respectfully to men than women in school).

MounjaroUser · 16/09/2024 14:54

Don't be ridiculous.

Pyjamatimenow · 16/09/2024 14:55

Another parent looking for trouble…

oldwhyno · 16/09/2024 14:55

it's the kind of thing we need more of in school.

SerafinasGoose · 16/09/2024 14:56

MrsNotquiteAverage · 16/09/2024 14:19

Do you not expect the men to stand when a woman enters the room, say a meeting? Then the woman acknowledges them and asks them to sit. As it should be.

No. I've spent the whole of my adult professional life protesting that my sex has absolutely no bearing on the way I do my job. I'd like equality, not further differentiation on the mere account of having XX chromosomes.

I'd much prefer not to be talked over in meetings by men, or passed over for promotion. Whether they stand or sit whilst doing so is a point of the least consideration to me.

Fat chance of that.

Imperfectionist · 16/09/2024 14:56

Don’t you stand for your own family
too? Eg growing up if my grandparents visited and walked into the living room where I was sat, I stand up to greet them! I wouldn’t stay sitting on my bum on the sofa and shout hi over my shoulder. That would be rude and disrespectful, as well as not very caring.

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