AIBU to think Starmer shouldn’t be accepting freebies?se

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8djply3z18o

Kier Starmer is in the news today because he has been accepting, and not properly declaring free things he has been given. This time it is clothing, a personal shopper, and alterations for his wife before and after the election.

Why on earth is it OK for our PM to accept freebies like this? Surely as PM he and his wife can buy nice clothes, to look the part, and claim it back as expenses, or get a clothing allowance? Why accept gifts like this off a Labour donor?

As a donor, what would you want to gain by donating money to a party and by showering his wife with nice clothes?

Why can’t Keir buy his own glasses, and say they are an essential expense for his job? Why does a donor need to buy them for him?

I just think this man is quite the hypocrite. He’s meant to be a socialist, and he has a strong ideology he is trying to enforce, but back home his dining room table looks like he’s just got married and it’s covered with gifts.

So, if you are middle income and you want to send your SEN DC to a private school, it’s a luxury and you should pay 20% tax, or if you are a pensioner, you don’t deserve to keep warm, but it’s ok for Starmer to accept FREE luxuries (clothes, glasses, football tickets, 20k worth of accomodation) and not pay tax on them. The tax he will have to pay, is when the person who bunged him those favours, comes knocking for what they want in return.

I say KS should be made to pay 20% tax on all the luxuries he has received in the last 2 years.

It always helps to read what you post links too...... No it wouldn't as your link clearly proves....

Your organisation may be liable for failing to prevent a person from bribing on your behalf but only if that person performs services for you in business. It is very unlikely therefore that you will be liable for the actions of someone who simply supplies goods to you.

• There is a full defence if you can show you had adequate procedures in place to prevent bribery. But you do not need to put bribery prevention procedures in place if there is no risk of bribery on your behalf

• Hospitality is not prohibited by the Act....

Can you point to what Starmer has done in return for this hospitality and Gifts?

I can't imagine Mrs T accepting suits for Denis (or herself). Of course any donors are getting something in return even if its not directly linked to the donation - KS isn't getting freebies because they like his sparkling personality. I think it's worse for him because he's insufferably smug and gives the impression he thinks he's more moral than everyone else. And think it's sad to see late middle aged people being Taylor Swift fans, very immature.

Perhaps not as clearly as you think however 😂

It appears I understand it better than you. Hospitality must be genuine, reasonable and proportionate. I agree the freebies to the football pass the genuine test. However, on the reasonable and proportionate, they fall flat on their face. Once or twice, reasonable. Every week, every season. Definitely neither. So good luck with that defence if you even need it

It always helps to read the links ;)

Anyway, you have clearly missed the the point... there is no convincing someone who has such rose tinted glasses that they will tolerate any behaviour, as long as it's from their gang. I will simply judge his actions against his words, and be disappointed

Well, you've been comprehensively proved wrong there, no corruption, no bribery... all set out in a very helpful link you thoughtfully provided.

What has Starmer done in return? thats where you fall down flat on your face.

Plus.... if you bothered to read what i ve posted, i'm extremely disappointed in Starmer and co and not just on freebies either, not my gang, far to right of centre, pro brexit for starters.

Comprehension not your strength I see…

Anyway, now they are conceding that it is indeed wrong. Clothing first, and then watch how quickly rest crumbles. And still you defend what they are now caving in on 😂😂

It must be hard realising that while you care so much about defending the indefensible for for them, they don’t actually care about their voters, or the electorate at all.

And so it begins…

‘I was walking past the Emirates stadium, when sadly I tripped over Sue Gray’s purse.

When I woke up, I suddenly found myself accidentally inserted into a private hospitality box, wearing thousands of pounds worth of designer clothes’

Sorry but you re now just arguing for the sake of it now.

I've just told you i don't support his behavior or Labour.

So it begins ha ha ha! Can't you think of something original?

Not a single argument in my reply…so you’ll have to explain that comment, when you have a moment :)

And you know what, there is no need to be original all the time - funny is funny, no matter how old. For example, the following is not as funny ;)

What absolute rubbish. I cant think of a single person I know who would pay the slightest attention to what she looked like. I think she would be more respected if she wasn't tarted up in freebies like a corporate Christmas tree.

Victoria Starmer is never going to be viewed as a global style icon. Why can't she follow Carrie Johnson's lead regarding sustainability and rent her outfits.

Agreed. Or even follow the lead of the likes of Theresa May's husband and largely stay out of the public eye.
It's not the 1950s, I don't see why the spouse needs to be paraded as part of the political campaign

Neither do I. She often looks rather awkward or is left hovering uncertainly in the background.

Absolutely livid this morning listening to Keir Starmer saying he was right to accept £20k worth of accommodation for his son to study for his GCSE’s in! If that is not a beneficial luxury, I don’t know what is?! What about all those children being yanked out of their PS in their GCSE year or in the run up because of parents concern over such a quick and sharp rise in fees thanks to his implementation of VAT?! Or maybe still staying in their school but very aware of the financial stress on their parents?! Clearly KS doesn’t care about anyone else but himself and his own!

Wonderful idea!

I have some sympathy with him on his desire to ensure that his son's GCSEs weren't affected by his decision to lead the Labour party and therefore run for PM. Although most of us would lean on family to solve a problem or our own creation...

It does for me though raise more worrying questions about what exactly Lord Ali is getting in return for all these "donations". This is far from clear, and far from desirable