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Daft school rules

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sunhasgotthis · 06/09/2024 05:58

Inspired by another thread. What were ridiculous rules or procedures when you were at school or at your kid's school? We had a toilet paper monitor who handed out sheets of toilet paper. We had to specify number of sheets (up to three) in the communal area! Seemed totally normal to me at the time though! Another was boys in infants weren't allowed long trousers.

In seniors, a particular P.E. teacher would pull towels off people as they came out of the communal shower to check they had nothing on underneath and were wet. She single-handedly put a number of girls off sport and exercise at school. Awful.

In kid's (primary) school it's probably just practices that some schools still do, despite research showing little benefit of (and in some cases harmful) - pen licenses, behaviour RAG display, attendance awards, busywork homework etc.

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KnottyKnitting · 06/09/2024 11:54

Being forced to drink the little bottle of milk ( early 70s) . I was regularly sick because I had adenoid problems. Even when my mum got a doctors note to say I wasn't to drink the milk, they still forced me to or I would miss my break.

At lunch we were also forced to eat all on our plate ( think slimy grey liver, pungent chicken curry, anaemic cabbage, rice pudding and semolina) and if we didn't eat it, had to sit there staring at it for the whole of lunchtime.

At secondary school we all had to stand in assembly except for the hallowed few ( prefects) who sat at the front and with us plebs behind. I was behind one girl who moved her chair back and put the leg down hard on my foot. I yelped and then quietly asked her to move it. I got a detention for that as talking was strictly forbidden. My foot was bruised for weeks...

Girls did home economics and needlework and boys did all the fun tech stuff. I was really resentful of this.

The compulsory communal showers were also a thing at our school- no showers curtains and we had to leave the towel on the hook with our clothes meaning we had to run back through the changing room to where our clothes were.

HeyPrestoAlakazam · 06/09/2024 11:56

We weren't allowed to be seen eating or drinking in public in school uniform. One week into Year 7, a classmate was given an after school detention for eating some chips and drinking a fizzy drink after school about a mile away from school after she got locked out of home and was waiting for her mum to finish work.

We had to wear navy blue knickers under our navy blue skirts and were told we may have "knicker inspections". This never happened, thankfully.

After moving to another school, loads of us used to skip PE when it was Athletics due to a creepy (female) PE teacher who insisted we had to wear high cut athletics knickers with our vests tucked into the knickers. It was basically like a swimsuit and many of us preferred to have our vests a bit longer and looser (to cover sanitary pads or our bums). This went on until we were 16. We had to put up with sexual harassment from the boys AND men because the athletics field was on a main road and we often had men just stopping on the street and staring at us. The PE teacher was the biggest creep of all though, she'd be eyeing us all up with the creepiest grin on her face.

It wasn't a school rule though, just "Miss's Rule". Other PE teachers didn't mind how we wore sports kit and would let us wear our gym skirts, tracksuit bottoms or baggy polo shirts. They just wanted us to participate.

Peonypoppy · 06/09/2024 11:59

CornedBeef451 · 06/09/2024 11:52

@Peonypoppy yes the constant periods did seem to clear up during school holidays but would return with a vengeance next term, particularly during during the term we had swimming lessons!

The overweight comment was made worse when I tried to join in and do more exercise at after school clubs only to find out you could only take part if you were good enough to compete at inter-school competitions.

As I was shit at everything my burgeoning interest in sport for fun/weight loss was well and truly stamped out.

I was shocked to find out fairly recently that the very nice mom of DD's friend was a PE teacher, I had no idea that they could be nice!

It seems things are different now, or DD has been lucky but, despite also being a bit rubbish at sport, she has had some lovely, supportive PE teachers who have literally applauded her efforts even if she didn't actually score/block/break an ankle. And no forced nudity or body shaming!

Good grief. I know people weren't as 'woke' as they are now but it baffles me that some people couldn't draw a very simple line between this behaviour and mental health / common sense.

The thing I always thought at the time about the showering was that actually very very very rarely did we actually do anything in PE to warrant getting even remotely sweaty! All the 'your bodies are changing and hygiene is paramount' lectures didn't mean very much to a group of kids who just spent 90 minutes stood waiting for 5 minutes for their turn to run between 2 cones before joining the back of the line. Sweaty would have been a nice change!

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Genegeniehunt · 06/09/2024 12:03

I went to a super strict girls school around 15 years ago . The one shitty rule that sticks in my mind is bobbles/clips had to be black, God forbid you had a navy blue bobble it would have to come out. No makeup. Black socks only. Only dolly shoes were allowed, no kickers etc and turning up in trainers would get you excluded for a few days. No rolling skirts up. No jewellery or watches of any kind. No unnatural hair colours. We had a awful uniform too that you could only buy from 1 shop and it was £££. The day i left was one of the best days of my life.

Peonypoppy · 06/09/2024 12:06

Just thought of one more! Less of a 'rule' more of a lack of nuance

In secondary school, they scheduled a routine fire drill 10 minutes before the end of our PE lesson. My friend was dutifully naked and showering and upon the bell (which they knew was coming but students didn't) was ushered out of the changing rooms with only time to grab her towel. She was allowed no time to grab even her pants or jumper because 'if this was a real fire' etc etc. She then had to traipse across the school field in front of EVERYONE and her bum was exposed. I feel like today that would be prosecutable, but as far as I know nothing was ever said about it. She was still known for it (although not exclusively) all the way into sixth form.

CrazylazyJane · 06/09/2024 12:36

housethatbuiltme · 06/09/2024 11:07

You should pull them, thats ableism.

Some studies have shown that 1 kid in 28 (possibly more accounting for the undiagnosed) will have some form of co-ordination disorder.

You’re quite right. It is utter batshitery of the highest level. I have raised concerns from a safety point of view but may mention that it is also quite an ableist rule. At the other end of the spectrum my previous school had a rule of no laces before year 3.

housethatbuiltme · 06/09/2024 13:06

KnottyKnitting · 06/09/2024 11:54

Being forced to drink the little bottle of milk ( early 70s) . I was regularly sick because I had adenoid problems. Even when my mum got a doctors note to say I wasn't to drink the milk, they still forced me to or I would miss my break.

At lunch we were also forced to eat all on our plate ( think slimy grey liver, pungent chicken curry, anaemic cabbage, rice pudding and semolina) and if we didn't eat it, had to sit there staring at it for the whole of lunchtime.

At secondary school we all had to stand in assembly except for the hallowed few ( prefects) who sat at the front and with us plebs behind. I was behind one girl who moved her chair back and put the leg down hard on my foot. I yelped and then quietly asked her to move it. I got a detention for that as talking was strictly forbidden. My foot was bruised for weeks...

Girls did home economics and needlework and boys did all the fun tech stuff. I was really resentful of this.

The compulsory communal showers were also a thing at our school- no showers curtains and we had to leave the towel on the hook with our clothes meaning we had to run back through the changing room to where our clothes were.

My school wouldn't let girls take 'boy' tech subjects either.

Apparently there wouldn't be enough spaces for the boys if they let girls do woodwork because OF COURSE boys couldn't be forced to take cooking and sewing, that would be 'cruel'. So us girls where to be forced to instead, somehow thats not cruel.

I was famously stubborn and took a stand and refused, they eventually assigned me to a free space in the new 'electrics' option that virtually no one took because I refused to pick anything but woodwork (and my mam told them she would fight them for sexism).

I had no interest in electrics (plus I don't even think the class had a teacher, we where expected to read instructions and figure it out ourselves) so I did NOTHING for 2 years, just sat it out.

I may have failed tech but honestly I have never needed a 'tech' GCSE certificate in my life (in fact the only one I have EVER been asked for is Maths) and learning how to make a circuit that makes an led flash 3 time wouldn't serve any real life use anyway.

I really think parents should support kids in standing up to these things.

There is always people on facebook saying 'their school, their rules' when a parent whistleblows but sexism, ableism, pervy teachers (male or female), sexual assault practices like the showers, unfair uniform rules that are basically against human rights etc... SHOULD be called out by everyone. Their rules should not override basic rights.

Wheelz46 · 06/09/2024 13:11

This is giving me so many flashbacks, if you forgot your PE Kit (in primary) you had to do it in your underwear 😱

sunhasgotthis · 06/09/2024 13:18

Wheelz46 · 06/09/2024 13:11

This is giving me so many flashbacks, if you forgot your PE Kit (in primary) you had to do it in your underwear 😱

Forgot that one too!

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housethatbuiltme · 06/09/2024 13:48

Wheelz46 · 06/09/2024 13:11

This is giving me so many flashbacks, if you forgot your PE Kit (in primary) you had to do it in your underwear 😱

We didn't have PE kits in infants/juniors it was just you did it in underwear.

rainsofcastamere · 06/09/2024 13:55

@housethatbuiltme Same! We just did it in our pants and in winter our pants and vests!

turkeyboots · 06/09/2024 13:57

The PPs indoor and outdoor shoes reminded me that at 1 primary I was at, we had to wear slippers in classrooms. We could wear outdoor shoes to the classroom, which all had either own cloakroom and toilets, and then change into slippers. I loved my Fluffy blue slippers and was bewildered when we moved and we had no cloakroom, shared toilets with other classes, and no slippers.

sunhasgotthis · 06/09/2024 13:57

Some of these are awful. The 'fat' comment and the girl on a fire drill with a towel 😱

I actually enjoyed school on the whole, but there were at least a couple of teachers who shouldn't have been anywhere near kids and a couple who were stand out amazing.

The PP who said didn't have a good word to say about schools then or now - I'm sorry. Schools are a miserable place for lots of kids.

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Wheelz46 · 06/09/2024 14:26

@housethatbuiltme
@rainsofcastamere
Feeling kind of grateful that we only had to do it in underwear if we forgot our PE kit now 😬

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 06/09/2024 16:17

Emerald95 · 06/09/2024 07:34

At primary school the toilet block had one cubicle labelled "Year 5 and 6 only". This was the only one with a sanitary bin. My friend began her period at 9 years old, in Year 4. A teacher once saw coming out of the "Year 5 and 6 only" toilet and started berating her. My friend explained she was on her time of the month and the teacher said "So you think that gives you permission to break the rules?" My friend just cried so much the office had to call her mum. Her mum was understandably fuming, but the teacher kept doubling down that being on period wasn't an excuse to use the only cubicle that was set aside for girls on their period.

I hope that teacher’s next shit was a hedgehog.

RawBloomers · 06/09/2024 17:59

scalt · 06/09/2024 07:12

A couple of odd procedures I remember from primary school were:

For PE, we'd get changed into vest and pants in the classroom, then put shoes on without socks to walk to the assembly hall, then do the PE barefoot.

Whenever we left the classroom, it had to be locked: I suppose this was so we didn't do silly things with stuff in there, we had proper scissors in those days! This meant lots of lining up and being counted before going out, several times each day, and then again on the other side of the door. Children who dawdled were threatened with being locked in.

@RawBloomers The "free meal tables" reminds me of a scene in Grange Hill where the pupils all rose up against this at once, standing on the tables and shouting.

I think it was that episode that persuaded our school to change things. There were rumours that some kids had protested, but I didn’t see it and didn’t know any of the kids supposedly involved and we were of an age when rumours were more likely to be based on TV than fact!

sunhasgotthis · 06/09/2024 18:03

V cold teacher. Poor kid.

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RawBloomers · 06/09/2024 18:04

5475878237NC · 06/09/2024 09:50

Absolute cowards those teachers. How horrible.

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. Who knows what they did in staff meetings etc.? The rule did change.

FumingTRex · 06/09/2024 18:04

My muns school used to do regular petticoat inspection. If your petticoat had any lace or ribbon you gad to take it off!

sunhasgotthis · 06/09/2024 18:07

That was to @RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway. We crossed. The free meals table though - wtf?

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KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 06/09/2024 18:14

DD went back to sixth form yesterday, to start year 13. They have a new head of sixth form, who has decided to change most of the rules. They're now not allowed to leave the premises without express permission, they must attend all day even when they have free lessons all day. They have to hand over their phones when they enter the building.

I can understand these rules for years 7-11, but these are 17 and 18 year olds who are choosing to do further education! DD is fuming and now counting down the days til she's sat her exams next year and can leave.

randomiteminthenaggingarea · 06/09/2024 18:35

Junior school:
If you were in packed lunches, your sandwich HAD to have lettuce or tomato in them. If they didn't, then your whole lunchbox would be taken off you, you were given a school grated cheese and tomato sandwich and your parents charged.
I was a vegetarian. My lunchboxes used to have all sorts of fruit and veg in them. But the sandwich still had to have the fucking tomato.

Secondary school.
We had a PE teacher who would hold 'skirt inspections' and would check that you were wearing the regulation gym knickers under the skirt and definitely not cycling shorts. By lifting your skirts up. For that and a few other reasons that particular teacher is now enjoying his retirement at His Majesty's expense.

The hem of our skirts had to touch the ground when kneeling down. If they didn't then you were put into detention until your parents brought a regulation one. Except the outfitters only sold 2 lengths and by the time I was 16, I was already 6 foot tall.

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 06/09/2024 19:59

This is great, I partly became a teacher to not enforce stupid rules. But I recall seeing that Harry Potter in the cinema when Dumbledore says dont go on the third floor upper corridor by arr, or whatever, unless you want to die a horrible death, me and the school kids in the audience all laughed because that is exactly what school rules are like. My partner and her sister were sitting with me and were saying "what? what?". Its a school thing you wouldn't understand I explained.
And to the poster who had the school where the headboy could have a goat, you can't have a badger because it is illegal to restrain a badger in England. Actual police sergeant told me that.

scalt · 06/09/2024 21:58

Luio · 06/09/2024 06:28

Most of the completely pointless rules in the schools that I have worked in are about uniform but as most staff and parents cannot imagine a world without uniform, we have to stick with it.

And this is exactly why I felt it was our duty to resist certain “new normals” earlier this decade, in case rolling seasonal rules became permanent by stealth, and we’re telling our grandchildren in decades to come “I don’t remember why you wear masks in school between October and Easter, and why we must not sit on park benches, have takeaway coffee or play in playgrounds between October and Easter, but people just didn’t feel safe without the government banning certain things between October and Easter”.

Anyway, as we were, pointless school rules…

sunhasgotthis · 07/09/2024 10:20

'And to the poster who had the school where the headboy could have a goat, you can't have a badger because it is illegal to restrain a badger in England. Actual police sergeant told me that.'

You learn something new every day!

The vegetables in sandwiches is a good example of how policies presumably designed with good intentions (e.g. to encourage healthier eating) need a modicum of common sense when implementing.

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