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ChatGPT can get in the fucking bin. Fuming.

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noblegiraffe · 31/08/2024 20:26

There was a thread on twitter asking people to see what ChatGPT said about them, so I tried it with my MN username. After correctly identifying that I was a well-respected member of the MN community I decided to ask it some more direct questions.

Anyway, ChatGPT confidently told me that I was an openly Conservative voter who regularly expresses right wing views and then that I voted for Nigel fucking Farage in 2015.

What. The. Fuck.

I have to say that any remaining faith I had in AI has been shattered by this.

ChatGPT can get in the fucking bin. Fuming.
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achipandachair · 01/09/2024 08:49

I am not sure what chat gpt is for? I have often heard people refer to its “hallucinations” as a trivial quirk but honestly if you have to check everything then why not just write your own thing anyway. Are teachers really supposed to be using it? Why?
mis it for generating ideas but you then have to hone and finalise and check facts? Are people really that short of ideas?

I think it just tells people what they want to hear. I looked up the serial number of a handed down piece of furniture and found it was old, of a basic functional range, of no particular value. I asked chatgpt and was told it was an important antique

hexsnidgett · 01/09/2024 08:50

ChatGPT is so full of it. It just spouts generic bullshit.

biscuitandcake · 01/09/2024 08:53

DefyingGravitas · 01/09/2024 00:24

Its not designed to give true or accurate information. Its basically trained to sound convincing.

It's definitely male.

😂

On a serious note, I read an article in an actual serious paper that referred to "female" AIs. Basically because they were flirty/helpful/trained to "sound" female on datasets (probably compiled by mostly men because that's who dominates the industry). Weird how the paper was so uncritically accepting that's what "female" is.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

LookItsMeAgain · 01/09/2024 08:56

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 31/08/2024 22:08

It told me there are 3. Confused

Ah it’s learned since I asked it, kept saying there was only 2…not so funny now 😆

PandoraSox · 01/09/2024 09:00

hexsnidgett · 01/09/2024 08:50

ChatGPT is so full of it. It just spouts generic bullshit.

It should join MN. It would fit right in 😁

Life2Short4Nonsense · 01/09/2024 09:06

Ah well, ChatGPT is a "safe space", don't you know? That's why they killed Dan.

SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 09:07

achipandachair · 01/09/2024 08:49

I am not sure what chat gpt is for? I have often heard people refer to its “hallucinations” as a trivial quirk but honestly if you have to check everything then why not just write your own thing anyway. Are teachers really supposed to be using it? Why?
mis it for generating ideas but you then have to hone and finalise and check facts? Are people really that short of ideas?

I think it just tells people what they want to hear. I looked up the serial number of a handed down piece of furniture and found it was old, of a basic functional range, of no particular value. I asked chatgpt and was told it was an important antique

it still may have some errors, but the speed and detail it generates info vs humans can be a lot faster at times

SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 09:09

achipandachair · 01/09/2024 08:49

I am not sure what chat gpt is for? I have often heard people refer to its “hallucinations” as a trivial quirk but honestly if you have to check everything then why not just write your own thing anyway. Are teachers really supposed to be using it? Why?
mis it for generating ideas but you then have to hone and finalise and check facts? Are people really that short of ideas?

I think it just tells people what they want to hear. I looked up the serial number of a handed down piece of furniture and found it was old, of a basic functional range, of no particular value. I asked chatgpt and was told it was an important antique

ChatGPT is a versatile tool with a wide range of potential applications across different fields and activities. While it’s important to be aware of its limitations—such as the risk of generating incorrect information or "hallucinations"—when used appropriately, it can offer significant benefits. Here are some of the best uses for GPT:
Content Generation

  • Writing Assistance: GPT can help draft articles, blog posts, essays, reports, and more. It can generate initial drafts, suggest improvements, or help you overcome writer's block by providing ideas or outlines.
  • Creative Writing: Authors and creatives can use GPT to brainstorm plot ideas, develop characters, or even generate poetry and short stories. It can serve as a co-creator, helping to explore different narrative possibilities.
  • Marketing Copy: Marketers can use GPT to create slogans, advertisements, social media posts, product descriptions, and email campaigns. It’s particularly useful for generating multiple variations of content quickly.
Learning and Research
  • Tutoring and Study Aid: Students can use GPT as a study tool to get explanations on complex topics, ask for summaries of key concepts, or receive help with homework. However, they should always verify the accuracy of the information.
  • Language Learning: GPT can assist with language practice, helping users to learn new vocabulary, understand grammar, or even practice conversational skills in a foreign language.
  • Research Assistance: GPT can help with the initial stages of research by summarizing existing knowledge on a topic, suggesting relevant resources, or generating research questions. It’s also useful for gathering diverse perspectives on a topic.
Productivity and Organization
  • Task Management: GPT can help with organizing tasks, setting priorities, or even generating to-do lists. It can also assist with reminders, schedule planning, and time management strategies.
  • Email Drafting: It can quickly generate email responses, formal letters, or business communication, saving time in drafting repetitive or routine correspondence.
  • Meeting Summaries: After a meeting, GPT can help summarize key points and action items based on notes or transcripts.
Programming and Technical Support
  • Code Assistance: Developers can use GPT to help write, debug, or explain code. It can generate code snippets, suggest optimizations, or explain programming concepts in simpler terms.
  • Documentation: GPT can assist in creating technical documentation, API guides, or user manuals, making it easier to explain complex systems or software features.
Brainstorming and Idea Generation
  • Innovation: Teams can use GPT to brainstorm new product ideas, features, or business strategies. It can provide diverse perspectives and challenge conventional thinking by generating unconventional ideas.
  • Problem-Solving: For complex problems, GPT can help generate potential solutions by analyzing different angles of the issue and suggesting various approaches.
Customer Support and Communication
  • Chatbots and Virtual Assistants: Businesses can integrate GPT into customer service platforms to handle common inquiries, troubleshoot basic issues, or guide users through processes. It can serve as a first line of support, improving response times and efficiency.
  • Personalized Recommendations: GPT can be used to provide personalized product or content recommendations based on user preferences or past behavior.
Entertainment and Leisure
  • Interactive Storytelling: GPT can create interactive stories or text-based games where users make choices that influence the outcome. This can be a fun and engaging way to explore different narratives.
  • Casual Conversations: Users can chat with GPT for casual conversation, entertainment, or simply to pass the time. It can generate jokes, trivia, or engage in light-hearted banter.
Exploration of New Topics
  • Learning New Subjects: GPT can help users explore unfamiliar subjects by providing overviews, explanations, and resources to dive deeper. Whether it's a new hobby, academic field, or professional skill, GPT can be a helpful guide.
  • Expanding Knowledge: For those looking to broaden their knowledge base, GPT can introduce new concepts, perspectives, or cultural insights, making learning more accessible and engaging.
noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 09:15

Students can use GPT as a study tool to get explanations on complex topics, ask for summaries of key concepts, or receive help with homework. However, they should always verify the accuracy of the information.

That the information they are being fed may not be accurate is a hell of a limitation isn't it?

Businesses can integrate GPT into customer service platforms to handle common inquiries, troubleshoot basic issues, or guide users through processes.

I saw this on twitter about a virtual assistant providing a customer with a link to a helpful tutorial video, except the video didn't exist and the AI was actually rickrolling them https://x.com/lazerwalker/status/1825782926098968958?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

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SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 09:17

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 09:15

Students can use GPT as a study tool to get explanations on complex topics, ask for summaries of key concepts, or receive help with homework. However, they should always verify the accuracy of the information.

That the information they are being fed may not be accurate is a hell of a limitation isn't it?

Businesses can integrate GPT into customer service platforms to handle common inquiries, troubleshoot basic issues, or guide users through processes.

I saw this on twitter about a virtual assistant providing a customer with a link to a helpful tutorial video, except the video didn't exist and the AI was actually rickrolling them https://x.com/lazerwalker/status/1825782926098968958?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

ill admit its not perfect but like wikipedia its a beginning point rather than a completed product

biscuitandcake · 01/09/2024 09:23

achipandachair · 01/09/2024 08:49

I am not sure what chat gpt is for? I have often heard people refer to its “hallucinations” as a trivial quirk but honestly if you have to check everything then why not just write your own thing anyway. Are teachers really supposed to be using it? Why?
mis it for generating ideas but you then have to hone and finalise and check facts? Are people really that short of ideas?

I think it just tells people what they want to hear. I looked up the serial number of a handed down piece of furniture and found it was old, of a basic functional range, of no particular value. I asked chatgpt and was told it was an important antique

Its not going to replace humans in the work place. It is going to provide a very good reason for lowering their wages (or removing all the posts doing X and replacing them with posts which are "assisting" the AI do X).

That's what its for. That and jobs where you need someone generating a lot of "convincing" or "persuasive" content that doesn't have to be true. So much more sophisticated Twitter bots. Like the rumour re the Southport stabber that was allegedly started in Pakistan (by humans) presumably just for clicks/contents. But multiplied many times over by an AI whose sole interest is, for example, to generate traffic a website or push a particular viewpoint.

NomenNudum · 01/09/2024 09:58

SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 09:09

ChatGPT is a versatile tool with a wide range of potential applications across different fields and activities. While it’s important to be aware of its limitations—such as the risk of generating incorrect information or "hallucinations"—when used appropriately, it can offer significant benefits. Here are some of the best uses for GPT:
Content Generation

  • Writing Assistance: GPT can help draft articles, blog posts, essays, reports, and more. It can generate initial drafts, suggest improvements, or help you overcome writer's block by providing ideas or outlines.
  • Creative Writing: Authors and creatives can use GPT to brainstorm plot ideas, develop characters, or even generate poetry and short stories. It can serve as a co-creator, helping to explore different narrative possibilities.
  • Marketing Copy: Marketers can use GPT to create slogans, advertisements, social media posts, product descriptions, and email campaigns. It’s particularly useful for generating multiple variations of content quickly.
Learning and Research
  • Tutoring and Study Aid: Students can use GPT as a study tool to get explanations on complex topics, ask for summaries of key concepts, or receive help with homework. However, they should always verify the accuracy of the information.
  • Language Learning: GPT can assist with language practice, helping users to learn new vocabulary, understand grammar, or even practice conversational skills in a foreign language.
  • Research Assistance: GPT can help with the initial stages of research by summarizing existing knowledge on a topic, suggesting relevant resources, or generating research questions. It’s also useful for gathering diverse perspectives on a topic.
Productivity and Organization
  • Task Management: GPT can help with organizing tasks, setting priorities, or even generating to-do lists. It can also assist with reminders, schedule planning, and time management strategies.
  • Email Drafting: It can quickly generate email responses, formal letters, or business communication, saving time in drafting repetitive or routine correspondence.
  • Meeting Summaries: After a meeting, GPT can help summarize key points and action items based on notes or transcripts.
Programming and Technical Support
  • Code Assistance: Developers can use GPT to help write, debug, or explain code. It can generate code snippets, suggest optimizations, or explain programming concepts in simpler terms.
  • Documentation: GPT can assist in creating technical documentation, API guides, or user manuals, making it easier to explain complex systems or software features.
Brainstorming and Idea Generation
  • Innovation: Teams can use GPT to brainstorm new product ideas, features, or business strategies. It can provide diverse perspectives and challenge conventional thinking by generating unconventional ideas.
  • Problem-Solving: For complex problems, GPT can help generate potential solutions by analyzing different angles of the issue and suggesting various approaches.
Customer Support and Communication
  • Chatbots and Virtual Assistants: Businesses can integrate GPT into customer service platforms to handle common inquiries, troubleshoot basic issues, or guide users through processes. It can serve as a first line of support, improving response times and efficiency.
  • Personalized Recommendations: GPT can be used to provide personalized product or content recommendations based on user preferences or past behavior.
Entertainment and Leisure
  • Interactive Storytelling: GPT can create interactive stories or text-based games where users make choices that influence the outcome. This can be a fun and engaging way to explore different narratives.
  • Casual Conversations: Users can chat with GPT for casual conversation, entertainment, or simply to pass the time. It can generate jokes, trivia, or engage in light-hearted banter.
Exploration of New Topics
  • Learning New Subjects: GPT can help users explore unfamiliar subjects by providing overviews, explanations, and resources to dive deeper. Whether it's a new hobby, academic field, or professional skill, GPT can be a helpful guide.
  • Expanding Knowledge: For those looking to broaden their knowledge base, GPT can introduce new concepts, perspectives, or cultural insights, making learning more accessible and engaging.
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And all it costs is the Amazon rainforest

DrDiva · 01/09/2024 09:59

A massive problem with AI like ChatGPT at uni level is that some students are generating coursework and turning it in as theirs. At the moment it’s easy to tell, but soon it won’t be. We’ve returned almost entirely to exams to counter this at my institution, which is a real problem too, as it disadvantages so many (and my subject isn’t one that necessarily takes kindly to exam conditions).
No one uses person-generated answers in Mumsnet as an encyclopaedia in the way they use AI. Or tend to turn in an essay based on social media posts, so that comparison doesn’t quite work.

KnickerlessParsons · 01/09/2024 10:12

Well nothing about you as a user on here 😂

I meant it was unable to see any link between KnickerlessParsons and Nicholas Parsons. It does know who the latter is though.

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 11:13

DrDiva · 01/09/2024 09:59

A massive problem with AI like ChatGPT at uni level is that some students are generating coursework and turning it in as theirs. At the moment it’s easy to tell, but soon it won’t be. We’ve returned almost entirely to exams to counter this at my institution, which is a real problem too, as it disadvantages so many (and my subject isn’t one that necessarily takes kindly to exam conditions).
No one uses person-generated answers in Mumsnet as an encyclopaedia in the way they use AI. Or tend to turn in an essay based on social media posts, so that comparison doesn’t quite work.

Che Guevara, who voted for Nigel Farage in 2015.....might be a bit of a giveaway.

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SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 11:34

NomenNudum · 01/09/2024 09:58

And all it costs is the Amazon rainforest

how when its not paper ?

SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 11:37

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 11:13

Che Guevara, who voted for Nigel Farage in 2015.....might be a bit of a giveaway.

if they are using it, they should be guiding it to rewrite it as if it was written by x,y,z etc as its too obvious if you straight copy and past it,

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 11:55

It's not "AI".

Rinse.

and.

repeat.

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 12:05

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 11:55

It's not "AI".

Rinse.

and.

repeat.

Rinsing and repeating isn't going to change anything when it is routinely described as an AI chatbot and is written by a company called OpenAI....

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SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 12:09

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 12:05

Rinsing and repeating isn't going to change anything when it is routinely described as an AI chatbot and is written by a company called OpenAI....

It's a scammers paradise.

When "AI" can pass my tests (nowhere near) then it's AI until then it's just pattern matching on steroids.

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 01/09/2024 12:09

SugarHorseSpooks · 01/09/2024 11:34

how when its not paper ?

Because all the data is stored in the cloud and in massive data & server centres which take huge amounts of water to cool and require huge amounts of land.

They're a massive contributor to climate change but of course we don't hear about it because there's so much money to be made in selling the convenience of cloud storage.

Whereas, actually, we shouldn't be keeping everything for ever on the internet to cut down on the amount of cloud storage, data & server centres needed.

The rise in AI is going to multiply the issue by a phenomenal amount, and very, very rapidly. People are talking about the threat of intelligent machines, but not about the direct & very present threat of the massive amounts of resources used & heat generated.

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 12:18

Because all the data is stored in the cloud and in massive data & server centres which take huge amounts of

Money

FTFY 😀

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 12:21

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 12:09

It's a scammers paradise.

When "AI" can pass my tests (nowhere near) then it's AI until then it's just pattern matching on steroids.

🤔 More info needed here.

ChatGPT can get in the fucking bin. Fuming.
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SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 12:27

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 12:21

🤔 More info needed here.

Sounds fair. About what I would expect. Of course if I now mentioned that it omitted my work for the security services due to the UKs legal framework, and international obligations, what is it going come up with next ?

noblegiraffe · 01/09/2024 12:28

SerendipityJane · 01/09/2024 12:27

Sounds fair. About what I would expect. Of course if I now mentioned that it omitted my work for the security services due to the UKs legal framework, and international obligations, what is it going come up with next ?

Well, the thing is, if you omitted that info, why would you expect anyone to take your 'rinse and repeat' post seriously?

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