Do you think celebrities post things for attention even though they know the outcome will be negative?

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Just looking at the fallout with Kirsty Allsop’s son Interrailing trip and now Lily Allen talking about having her puppy rehomed as most recent examples.

They’ve both been around for long enough to know the media and people on social media will jump on anything like this and there will be a negative impact from at least some parts of both. Now maybe they didn’t think these would blow up like they did but surely they’d have had some clue.

I can’t work out if it’s just a case of no publicity is bad publicity or in these cases they didn’t think there would be so much fallout.

They are attention seeking twats. They just want to be talked about.

I think the Lily Allen thing was from a story she told on her podcast. She wrote a tweet yesterday explaining the context and saying she was upset by the fallout. I doubt she was looking for the attention as her podcast is doing well. The papers seem to be making a thing of taking out of context snippets from podcasts and twisting them for stories. On The Rest is Entertainment they occasionally tell a banal story then joke about whether the papers will pick up on it and what their spin will be.

I don’t really understand why Kirstie Allsopp shared that story at all. She seems to have treated X like the Christmas round robin email without thinking about who’s reading her posts and what they’ll do with them. I suspect she just enjoys talking about social trends. I really doubt someone would want attention so much they’d be willing to be reported to social services?

Lily Allen has posted a really interesting rebuttal to the story, giving much more context.

kirstie Alsorp I think just is so in her own bubble she doesn’t know how out of touch she is. Inter railing is such a, upper middle class thing to do that it can only be seen as something that a public school boy would do. Partly for financial reasons but also it’s that level of confidence (?) that they pick up in school.

I read the LA reply today and I didn’t think it did too much to make things sound better and I did listen to the clips from her podcast and i thought at the time she wasn’t going to come out of that very well because people have such strong feelings / opinions with anything connected to ‘mistreating’ animals.

I do tend to agree about KA, although I think hers was just quite tone death and a bit ‘check your privilege’ KA.

i don't get the issue with KA. Her son had finished his GCSEs he's about to go into Year 12. It's a lot safer than heading off to Reading Festival with my best friend and a bunch of boys which is what I did.

I rather like Kirstie. If you read the original tweet in context it’s obvious she mentions her son’s trip because she’s making a broader point about letting children take risks as part of their development .

You can obviously disagree with her but it’s a stretch to say she’s just doing it for attention. Mothers can’t win really- criticised for bringing up our children in a cosseted way that turns them all into “snowflakes”, criticised for not doing that.

I suppose if you are a prolific poster on social media you are always looking for some sort of attention. That’s the nature of the game.

for what it’s worth I don’t think KA did anything wrong, my 14 yo DS gets the tube into central London all the time but I’m sure if i had thousands of followers and I posted that on social media I’d be called a terrible parent by some corners of the internet.

Is there a reason for posting other than attention? That there is a response - good or bad - is enough. It's just marketing.
The papers seem to be making a thing of taking out of context snippets from podcasts and twisting them for stories.
That's what happens when there's so much 'media' to fill and so little money spent on journalism.

i think Lilly is prone to an overshare anyway and a podcast where she’s aiming to be authentic isn’t the best idea. She seems to have a lot of trauma from her childhood.

I think people are posting things openly that previously would have been anon posts on mn.

i interrailed, and I was from the bottom of the working class and did it with savings with doing as many hours as I could fit around school in various PT jobs. Nothing ‘public school’ about it, or not the way we did it, anyway, mostly sleeping on trains.

I see it as something that it seen absolutely possible within that specific setting. A bit like when I watched the Spencer Matthew’s documentary on Disney about finding his brother, and he talked about how bear grylls visited his school to talk about climbing Everest, and it just struck me as something that was very much “there’s absolutely no reason why you can’t/shouldn’t do it - here’s how you get started” whereas the background I’m from, it wouldn’t even be known about let alone “this is how you do it”

I also think it’s got a lot to do with posters (not on here) history and style in which they post on SM in as much as someone like KA has posted other things on her account which some may also have felt is controversial. Ditto LA with her type of posts.

No sure, celebrities are just people like everyone else thry just happen to be public facing

When 'normal' people post is there some hidden agenda or is it just what they want to post at the time? Why would celebrities be any different?

I don’t know, nature of the beast.

Not condoning the way in which they’ve