I need to rehome don't I.....

[letsallcountsheep]

I have a 7 month old Collie cross. She is lovely, well trained and full of energy.

She came into season about 3 weeks ago, the temperament has changed a little, she's become a little possessive over me and food

2 incidents worry me, when my daughter and I were stroking her my daughter leaned in to give her a peck on the cheek and she nipped her nose, she sometimes gets over excited giving kisses but it scared me enough to pull her away and smack on her nose to stop her. The second happened this morning, I was making my dogs lick mat, I was walking to the freezer to set it and my cat(12) walked across my path, my dog snapped and went for her, she didn't actually get my cat as she ran away. I locked my dog in the kitchen while I checked my cat.

I have a dog walker while I work part time in an office. So she's not home alone all day, she says both incidents are completely out of character and could be because she is in season but I don't think I can relax with her now.

I mentioned we might have to rehome her to my daughter and she was heartbroken as am I, I tried to explain it to her but she's SN and 7 loves our puppy to bits. 😢

WWYD rehome now or see how she is after her season has finished. I will be getting her spayed so no more seasons after this

You need to train yourself and dd.

Dd needs to understand she cannot get in the dogs face for a start. If dd cannot do this, then yes you need to rehome through a good rescue (please not Gumtree or the like!)

People are being helpful! They are explaining why it is not safe to let a child kids a dog in season, nor is it right to smack a dog.

How to get your dog to fear your hand 😥
We taught 'touch' (palm held out and a treat given when they touch your hand with their nose). Our boy comes running when he sees that.
Bad behaviour is ignored or gently removed from the situation and ignored for a minute or two or, better still as in the OPs case, easily avoided.

To be fair, violence was a common way of training dogs (and children) 70 years ago. It's not acceptable now, along with a lot of things we used to do.

Also, dogs cant give kisses and hugs. They are animals not human.

Yes I'd rehome her, for the dog not for you.

Smacking on the nose is an outdated way of 'training' them, it's cruel and unneccesary and any good dog TRAINER (not walker) will tell you that.

You've got a working breed and she'll be a lot happier in a more suitable home.

Yeah sorry its not a dog issue, it's an owner issue.

Kids shouldn't be in dogs faces, she'll have been making it very clear that she wasn't comfortable before snapping, and the snap is a dogs way of discipline, it's "back off, get out my face" in their language.

Also food aggression training is necessary for most dogs, there was a high value food item and a competitor for that food got between your dog and the food. The dog said "back off, that's mine"

Please do carry on 'tapping' your dogs nose and letting your daughter treat the dog as one of her playthings as I look forward to your post about your rushing to A&E with your fingers in a carrier bag.

The dog is going to progress to being anxious/nervous and will end up biting out of fear. I just hope that when the dog does bite hard, it's not your daughter but you.

I have six dogs, the four big ones are a Doberman, Malinois, Rottweiler and a Bull Greyhound, if you tried your awful training methods with any of them you would be killed and rightly so.

They were bred for herding. Not going for small animals. I've never had issues with my collie and cats

Eeks. 😞

MN majority: This behaviour is due to how you are interacting with your dog and will get worse if you continue to do so.

OP: I'm glad you've confirmed it's the dog's fault because she's in season.

So why have you even got a dog? They aren't toys to be bought and rehomed when "not convenient". You need educating.

Smacking dogs is not a training tool. They won’t know it is a punishment, they will just learn to be afraid of you.

When I read “she sometimes gets over excited giving kisses “. I thought it was your dog giving the kisses . But it’s your daughter .

Your daughter can give you as many over excited kisses a she likes but not to an animal .

I am not a dog lover but I really detest when people stop a dog from giving their warning. A growl or a mutter means “sod off” in dog language and people would do well to pay heed.

a tap on the nose would be like me poking you in the eye

Shame on you for smacking/tapping/whatever your dog on the nose. Stop that immediately and tell your dog walker not to do it either.

DDog needs to be given some space away from you whilst in season. She doesn’t want your DD in her face.

If she is snapping after being spayed, she clearly isn’t happy with you and should be rehomed.

mummyoflittledragon I will be getting her spayed asap.

I would be doing this wether I was rehoming or not. I wouldn't want her being used for breeding.

Many thanks for the advice on the nose tapping, I will have a google, this was something I picked up from when we had dogs as children many years ago.

I wouldn't want her to be hand shy, at the moment she thankfully isn't.

As for those saying stay away from her face, if we are lay down(bed/sofa) she will always come lie with us, head next to ours and cuddling.

Kissing a dog's face is such a no no.

Dogs don't ''Kiss''- they'd see a child looming in as a threat.

Smacking is not good. The dog will likely associate your daughter with punishment- and won't associate the snap with a hit.

A border collie X will be highly strung, and it was crazy to get any dog {unless a stuffed one} with a young child.

The dog is probably not getting enough exercise or training- Border collies and their crosses are relentless and need tons of physical and mental exercises to keep them happy.

You said you smacked her, it's right there in your post. Smacking or even tapping aren't appropriate training tools.

Children shouldn't roll on the floor with puppies, nor should they be kissing them. You need to teach your child what's appropriate.

Plus your puppy is having far too much exercise. Over an hour with the dog walker at 7 months is way too much, and then she has the other walks too.

Crumbs. I think, hopefully, you’ve realised that this is your issue. Think how you’d feel being harassed/kissed with pmt. You can tell people to fuck off, your dog can’t. Train your child. Even my extremely soppy and tolerant dogs don’t like human faces near theirs. Cuddles are demanded by them but they turn away from faces, most dogs don’t like it.

"A tap on the nose is not a smack, if you want a dog to stop what it is doing you tap on the nose"

*70isaLimitNotaTarget *You read it correctly, my DOG is the one giving excited kisses not my child

our dog who was occasionally tapped on the nose was an absolute delight, loved people, so no worries there but thanks for the usual insults!

@letsallcountsheep I get you, my father did the same thing with our dogs growing up and also rubbed their noses in their mess because apparently that's how you train a dog back then.

These things aren't done anymore for plenty of reasons which I'm sure you'll discover when you Google it.

Your child needs to understand that this dog is a live animal and should be respected as such

Strokes are fine if you offer your hand for the dog to sniff and then gently stroke her and she should never kiss the dog or put her face up close to any part of the dog

Like us, we have personal space we don’t want invading
These are things that should have been taught to your dc before hand

I hope you are getting ddog spayed after this season

yes i think my dh talked about rubbing dog's noses in mess but never bothered.

You don't need to Google. Just stop.

If the dog comes to you for attention that is fair enough but not the other way round. Ever.