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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 13/08/2024 21:21

When l read things like this, l honestly think if men gave birth things like this wouldn't happen.

Beyond words.

quantumbutterfly · 13/08/2024 21:23

Poor baby will never know their mum. Needs improvement indeed,

My heart goes out to her family.

winniethepooped · 13/08/2024 21:26

Awful. Truly terrible for everyone.

@LadyTiredWinterBottom2

nah they would. People are negligent and shitty at their jobs regardless.

Whale80ne · 13/08/2024 21:41

winniethepooped · 13/08/2024 21:26

Awful. Truly terrible for everyone.

@LadyTiredWinterBottom2

nah they would. People are negligent and shitty at their jobs regardless.

I think this comment misses the point that women simply aren't believed with regards to their own health in contexts where men are taken very seriously. Women are very often dismissed as being emotional, hysterical, hormonal making a fuss etc. where men are generally praised for speaking up and asking for help and taken seriously.

I had a postpartum hemorrhage too and am lucky to have survived. Luckily the anaesthetist believed me when I described pretty much the same symptoms - freezing cold, dizzy, nauseous (though the cold was the one that terrified me due to graphic flashbacks to reading the scene where the airman dies from shrapnel wounds to his abdomen in Catch 22...) and the consultant surgeon was paged and I was rushed into surgery.

Poor, poor woman and poor husband and children - five of them.

I must say the NHS surgeon told me it was "just one of those things" and no reason to think it'd happen again, but when I had another baby in another country after moving abroad I was warned in no uncertain terms not to get pregnant again after that delivery and told without beating around the bush that another pregnancy would be likely to end in leaving my children without a mother, and I took that advice completely seriously and didn't have more children. I do wonder whether the NHS staff are allowed to be as blunt and whether this is a good thing.

winniethepooped · 13/08/2024 22:02

@Whale80ne

I'm not missing the point, I understand it, I just don't agree with it.

Nursing and midwifery are dominated by females who empathise with females. Anaesthetists and surgeons really do have patients best interests at heart and give excellent care in the NHS.

Of course there are a small percentage who don't..like in all professions.

Men are also branded often as "bad patients" and not coping well with pain or suffering with "man-flu" or moaning about their experience whilst their wife gives birth etc etc all to some extent true and humorous.

All of that being said, NHS staff deliver care and treat regardless of gender.

This is an exceptionally tragic case.

I'm sorry for the trauma you've been through.

I believe gender has nothing to do with it but feel free to disagree.

Suchsadnews · 13/08/2024 22:37

I can see both sides but just keep thinking of the poor baby who will grow up without her, and the older children of course x

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