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Does anyone else reflect on 'Closer to Cleopatra than...' moments in their personal lives?

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Thurien · 12/08/2024 17:38

We are told we are closer in time to Cleopatra today than when the first pyramids were built. Then there is Tyrannosaurus Rex which we are closer to than Stegosaurus.

Interesting enough, but what blows my mind more is time distances in my own life. Today I took a detour through the village where I was born and where I returned to live with my young family. There, one of the DC's and I sat on a small hill by the wood's edge and watched young squirrels playing. DC was about 3 and shreiking with joy as they gambled about.

As I drove through today, I reflected that my own early years seemed like a whole eternity before DC came along. It was really like a different life. Yet from the squirrels to now seems like just a decade or two, but still very much connected to now.

Anyone else get these type of thoughts?

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Sethera · 12/08/2024 21:04

For some reason recently I was thinking about a bloke I worked with in the 90s who used to go on and on about his baby daughter. I vaguely thought 'She must be in her teens now' and then it hit me she'd be nearly 30 - nearly 10 years older than I was when I worked with her dad,

Lelophants · 12/08/2024 21:11

I also get really weird sometimes when I remember things from my childhood and memories with my parents and grandparents and now I see how we’re all in different roles now. Feels strange and sad and like nothing lasts or means anything.

Or I have a really strong memory about something that happened at work and it was all so important and I realise that absolutely none of that team work there anymore and everyone has disintegrated into a new life and I don’t know where. I wonder if they all remember the same memories.

Lelophants · 12/08/2024 21:12

I find the work things especially weird, I think because you spend so much of your day there and then you all move on.

Newsenmum · 12/08/2024 21:13

Sethera · 12/08/2024 19:23

I was thinking about this a while ago and came up with a theory - no idea whether it's true.

Pop music in any kind of modern sense didn't come into being until the 1950s - the first UK singles chart was produced in 1952. Therefore, in the mid-1980s, there was a history of what you might call playable music on a pop station going back about 30 years.

Fast-forward to 2023 and the 'playable' music history now spans 70 years. Therefore if you divide it by fractions of time, the bar has moved for something to be called a 'golden oldie'. Say in 1983 it might have been an 'oldie' if more than 5 years old - so anything older than the last 1/6 of pop music history - in 2023 your 1/6 of music history spans nearly 12 years.

Of course I don't mean it's a science in that exact way or that any kind of calculation takes place, but it may work loosely on that psychological principle.

Or I might have hugely over-thought it 😃

Radio 1 plays ‘old music’ from the 00s and kids things it’s old 😂

weegiemum · 12/08/2024 21:16

Yes, my dd1 is now older than I was when dh and I got married (24).

AgileGreenSeal · 12/08/2024 21:30

I remember my absolute joy watching Waterloo on TV -the first time it was performed live on Eurovision- while I was at the youth club in Belfast.
I was 14 and it was a terrible year because of the Troubles.
That night was so special, the memory of it still brings me to tears.

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GladOliveUser · 12/08/2024 21:33

I get that with kids born 2000 and after are actually adults and I remember the frenzied run up to 2000 😖😖 i feel so old

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 21:33

I find the older I get the more events I have been alive half the time since. For example, when I was a child, the second world war was ancient history. Then one day I suddenly found I had been alive more than half the time since it ended. That did not used to be the case.

Now I find I have suddenly been alive more than half the time since the first world war ended.

mytuppennyworth · 12/08/2024 21:34

One day I will have been alive more than half the time since Queen Victoria died - but not yet

110APiccadilly · 12/08/2024 21:37

Being in my thirties, mine is 9/11. Well over half my life time away, and doesn't feel like it at all.

Or, to bring another event into it, the time from the fall of the Berlin Wall to 9/11 is half the time from 9/11 to now. But to me the Berlin Wall is history and 9/11 is current events.

Zow · 12/08/2024 21:48

Awrite · 12/08/2024 19:13

The first Sarah Connor who gets gunned down by Arnie in The Terminator is 35 according to the subsequent news reports. She looks older than me (late 40's). Unless I'm fooling myself of course.

@Awrite

I do disagree massively with this. When Linda Hamilton played Sarah Connor in Terminator 1, she was 27 - and she looked even younger (IMO) More like 24.

No way did she look like mid to late 40s! Shock Are you thinking of someone else?

Does anyone else reflect on 'Closer to Cleopatra than...' moments in their personal lives?
Thurien · 12/08/2024 21:52

Redshoeblueshoe · 12/08/2024 19:20

OP was the actor Alfred Enoch ? He is 35, his dad died recently, his dad was 99.

No, that's not ringing any bells, but thank you. It was someone more famous.

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Thurien · 12/08/2024 21:53

110APiccadilly · 12/08/2024 21:37

Being in my thirties, mine is 9/11. Well over half my life time away, and doesn't feel like it at all.

Or, to bring another event into it, the time from the fall of the Berlin Wall to 9/11 is half the time from 9/11 to now. But to me the Berlin Wall is history and 9/11 is current events.

Good explanation.

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Newsenmum · 12/08/2024 21:57

110APiccadilly · 12/08/2024 21:37

Being in my thirties, mine is 9/11. Well over half my life time away, and doesn't feel like it at all.

Or, to bring another event into it, the time from the fall of the Berlin Wall to 9/11 is half the time from 9/11 to now. But to me the Berlin Wall is history and 9/11 is current events.

And you hear people talking about 9/11 happening before they were born 🤯

Newsenmum · 12/08/2024 21:57

I love rewatching old sitcoms like Frazier and Friends then realise they’re now so much older 😭

madnessitellyou · 12/08/2024 21:58

I was reading about Leon Marchand. His mum was born just three years before me. This was completely shocking to me because he’s a grown man. Then I realised that he’s actually only 5 years older than dd1.

I happen to live near my old secondary school. Someone had written their name and the date in what must have been newly poured concrete at the top of some stairs going into the yard. It’s still there. The date was the year I started there. Graffiti from 25 years ago is still there!!!

Lelophants · 12/08/2024 22:01

SequoiaTree · 12/08/2024 18:02

99% of human history was in the Stone Age.
For the first 30 years of my life, 100 years ago was Victorian times. Now the 20s are 100 years ago.
I'm 53 and one of my grandfathers was born in the 19th century. 7 years before Queen Victoria died.

Wait what’s the Stone Age bit?

SequoiaTree · 12/08/2024 22:02

TerfsWereRight · 12/08/2024 21:03

It seems to me like there was more distinction between decades in the second half of the 20th century - the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s - so immediately recognisable, especially in terms of their styles and their music. Are the 2000s, 2010, 2020s that easily distinguishable? If you watch something now made in 2005 does it look dated in the way that something from the 70s looked dated in the 90s?

I think the PP who was talking about how long pop
music had been around in those days is on to something. The explosion of popular culture after WW2 was so enormous than maybe it just moved and changed quicker than now and the decades are more differentiated than they are now, and therefore seem to cover a longer time period in our memories, whereas now things blur more.

Or maybe that’s what all aging people think about the culture they grew up with …

the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s - so immediately recognisable, especially in terms of their styles and their music. Are the 2000s, 2010, 2020s that easily distinguishable?
I wonder that too. Maybe they are to younger people.

AnnunciataM · 12/08/2024 22:06

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/08/2024 19:30

EtonMessy · Today 18:29
Helen Viola Jackson was the last surviving widow of a confederate soldier from the American Civil War . She only died in 2020 , 155 years after the end of the war. She was 17 when she married , her civil war veteran husband was 93”

Holy cow!

Not in the same league but our 21 year old son’s (and 29 year old daughter’s) great grandparents were Victorians, born in 1896 and 1895.

Lots of people at school didn’t believe him until he took in the family tree. They still had great grandparents living up the road, born in the 1960s 😁

Have I missed something? How could a 21yo have great-grandparents who were born in the 1960s?

Timefordrama · 12/08/2024 22:07

KnitFastDieWarm · 12/08/2024 19:03

I was there too and Bruce is a law unto himself - if you told me he was 50 I’d believe you! I’m not 40 yet and I was knackered just watching him leaping about.

was my first time seeing him - wasn’t it great?!! 🎸

Edited

He's amazing! I saw him last year in Hyde Park as well. Two of the best nights of my life.
Keeping to the theme of the thread - my son will be 40 this year. When he was born, I was 10 years younger than he is now. But I was definitely more grown up - well, that's what I tell myself!

Newsenmum · 12/08/2024 22:09

I’ve been reading a few time related facts. Here:

There are people alive today who will be around in the 22nd century.

Ormally · 12/08/2024 22:11

There is a site of games called Neal.fun that has one bit of entertainment for idle fingers called Who Was Alive? It plots who was alive at the same time as who (sometimes revealing when earlier generation rep. was about 75 and upcoming generation rep. was just born). It is rather compelling and I keep thinking up this kind of question when reading about other people who had a very good chance of crossing over, perhaps taking the same transport or eating in the same places whether they knew it or not, in the years c. 1908 to 1928. We're in that 20s-ish equivalent now and that also adds its own angle.

BESTAUNTB · 12/08/2024 22:13

Could you be thinking of Julio Iglesias rather than an actor, OP? His younger brother was born when he was 60. Their dad was 88 at the time.

Newsenmum · 12/08/2024 22:19

A hideous one. The first auschwitz prisoners began to arrive in the same year as McDonald’s was founded. 😳 1940

Marilyn Monroe and the late Queen Elizabeth were born in the same year.

Oxford university existed for hundreds of years before the aztec empire

Overtheatlantic · 12/08/2024 22:20

I was watching the Americans which is a great series, including the great Welsh actor Mathew Rhys, and it takes place in the 80s. I grew up in the 80s, completely unaware that it was just 20 years after the end of the Korean War and that my parents were born in WWII. Time moves swiftly.