Fans of the Marvel films, advice needed

[noblegiraffe]

The quality of the films objectively drops off a cliff post-Endgame.

If you were doing a watch-through with your kids would you stop at Endgame and let them go out on a high? Or would you watch selective post-Endgame ones? If so, which ones? Obviously not The Eternals or Quantumania. What about the TV series? I mean the ones rated 12, they are not old enough for Daredevil!

I know some people tell their kids that Star Wars is a trilogy, so there's a chance to curate here.

I've watched all of them. TV and films. Most are excellent, some not so good but I'm glad I've watched them all.

I think Disney+ might have a list of the chronological order of all of them that you could work through. That's going to be my comfort viewing over the winter months.

It's an awful lot of hours though! Not sure I can picture spending hours resitting through Hawkeye just for completism's sake. Or She-Hulk, that was really bad.

Wandavision was excellent but maybe more of an adult vibe thematically

Hawkeye and Ms Marvel are good for teens

I'm an autistic marvel geek and love binge watching, hence being able to do this 😁

Some of it is great. Both seasons of Loki were fun, WandaVision was very inventive and emotional, and both fed into Dr Strange Multi-verse of Madness which I enjoyed too but it's a bit gruesome. I liked the first session of What-If. Shang-Chi is pretty cool. The rest was a bit meh. So yes I'd be selective.

You can be as selective as you like.
I tend to view most after endgame as standalone (or in a series by themselves).
those that I really don't like (capt marvel) I just don't watch.

How old are the kids? Can't they just decide which ones to watch for themselves? If they don't like them or they're a bit shit, so what?

Oh, What If is a good shout. I don't think we'll watch Multiverse of Madness, it's a bit intense in the horror aspects!

Shang-Chi has that really cool fight scene on the bus so maybe worth it.

I'd forgotten Shang Chi. Yes, that one was very good.

Eleven. Building up to Endgame knowing what is coming has been so good so far. It seems a shame to then let it fizzle out with some disappointments!

It's a good winter project DD and I made our way through them during the winter COVID lockdown, somehow I'd missed Thor Ragnarok at the cinema and it's one of my favourites now.

I'd work your way through and take the good with the bad, the children will tell you when enoughs enough, DD gave up from Ms Marvel TV series and hasn't bothered since.

However, I might start with Xmen first, it's older and the special effects lose their impressiveness if you watch them after the Avengers series but are worth it on their own and there is bound to be some more crossover in the future.

Then I'd be Spider Man and Amazing Spiderman

Then launch into Avengers chronologically.

I think I'd teach myself to crochet if I couldn't areas and do something productive during those 100s of hours watching though

Thinking about the TV series, Moonknight was good.

Is there a plan for all these minor characters to end in a team-up at some point? I've lost the plot of whether they're working towards anything here, it all seems a bit random.

Learning to crochet to make something productive out of the hundreds of hours - hah, I might have to start thinking about something like that!

Maybe, but the Infinity Saga is quite a mixed bag too. It didn't really become a saga until after Iron Man was a hit, and they pretended the Saga was always the plan, and everyone just shush about the Hulk and Daredevil films.

I think of everything post-End Game as isolated "let's throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks" efforts from the MCU. They seem to have totally lost their way (worrying far too much about what noisy online fanboys think). I just watch them at random now and don't worry about whether it's all part of some saga, or get attached to any characters, because chances are we'll never see them again.

I really enjoyed Shang-Chi, but it doesn't seem like any of the threads from that film are getting picked up, sadly.

WandaVision is probably the best of the MCU miniseries, and fine for 11 year olds. Hawkeye and Ms Marvel are aimed at young audiences and also pretty good. Jessica Jones is by far the best Marvel series, by a country mile (and not even MCU), but very, very unsuitable!

Anyway, my point was I wouldn't worry about "curating" anything or trying to force these shows and films into any kind of post-hoc universe where it all makes sense. They're being made at random, so watch them at random and take it as it comes.

WANDAVISION is great it's on Disney +

LOKI is OK it's lots of fun. She hulk was abysmal . The new films are rubbish.

I’d dip in and out afterwards. Thor Ragnarok is a hoot, for example, and WandaVision is good. The Spider-Man films are usually big hits with younger teens. (My daughter’s first movie star crush was Tom Holland)

Ms Marvel had rubbish villains but fun visuals and main character. Lovely family dynamics

Shang-Chi, Loki, and the Spiderman films are great. I didn't think Wandavision stuck the landing, really, and a lot of the TV series are either uneven at best or very adult. Ms Marvel had such potential but largely squandered it. I love Daredevil and Jessica Jones but I think both are adult viewing and Luke Cage and Iron Fist are both shite.

I'd probably do a very selected post-Endgame curation. You can watch by character arc on Disney+, so you could definitely watch Loki's arc through to the end.

Agatha All Along looks intriguing. TBD.

I love Tom Hiddleston so could definitely stand to watch Loki again.

Definitely not old enough for David Tennant in Jessica Jones, I'm not sure I'll ever get over that! I did like how they did the Defenders team up series (and how they all took the piss out of Iron Fist who thoroughly deserved it).

I know everyone hated She Hulk but I liked her and she dates Matt Murdock. I really really like Matt Murdock.

I enjoyed She-Hulk, for all its flaws. Watched it again a few months ago and thought it improved on re-watching. Sounds like it's been ditched though because fanboys hate it (funny how they always hate the feminist stories...), oh well.

I liked Matt Murdock more in She-Hulk than in Daredevil actually. He was very one-note in Daredevil (Vincent D'onofrio carries those series on his extremely broad shoulders) and took ages to finally stop being such a git to his friends. It got quite tedious.

Oh that reminds me that I hated what they did with Vincent D'Onofrio in Hawkeye. Utter waste.

I liked She-Hulk. It was light and funny and Tatiana Maslany is amazing and she had great chemistry with Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock. I don't think there was anything wrong with it other than misogynist fanboys with their knickers in a twist.

What? Seriously? What about the mess of an ending? The twerking scene??

Meh. She-Hulk was always about irony and meta and breaking the fourth wall, and it did some needed pisstaking of the MCU juggernaut. And I don't really know why I would be bothered by a throwaway end credits scene particularly. I expected it to be fun, and it was fun enough for me to forgive it for its flaws. Its real problem was the prohibitive cost of the CGI.

Agree. It was a mess and had obviously been dicked around with a lot (too many cooks in the MCU these days) but it was a lot of fun and the chaotic storylines almost added to that, albeit unintentionally. I thought Tatiana was fantastic and it’s a huge shame they’re not giving it another go. Inevitable the fanboys would hate it since the main story arc was a huge swipe at them.

Is Tatiana Maslany ever anything but brilliant? Orphan Black was superb, she was amazing as all of them. I've had a crush on Charlie Cox since Stardust.

Charlie's cameo in Spider-Man 3 was a delight. "I'm a very good lawyer."