Are you changing your plans for this week because of potential for riots?

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My kids are heading to my parents house for a week, to help out with summer holiday childcare. My parents are planning to take them on several day trips, including going in to Liverpool City centre on the train. I'm not too concerned about them being in Liverpool itself, as if there are protests it should be obvious where they are and they can avoid the area, but what about on the train itself? What if they find themselves on a train carriage full of drunken rioters?
My parents think the chances of that are tiny and I'm worried about nothing. So I'm wondering what others are doing. Are people avoiding city centres at the moment?

No. It will be fine. And by hiding away, we hand over control (or at least "bragging rights") to the idiots. Everyone should be going out and about totally as normal.

A little, we were considering a trip to London this week, but I will delay it just in case. It feels a bit silly, but I just wouldn't want to take the risk of putting dd in danger by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. These thugs are clearly not in their right minds - they seem fuelled by a dangerous mixture of hate/stupidity/alcohol/drugs.

Fortunately because I am white I don't need to.

I’m meeting a good friend for lunch on Friday and we are avoiding the major city centre we live four miles from. Her DS is a police officer and there have been major issues in that city. It was on TV. He hasn’t warned her not to, we have just decided. I have been in a riot before, not deliberately and it was petrifying, a long time ago in the 1990’s but I’m never forgetting that. Any crowd, the escalation of something minor can cause panic, in panic people make mistakes. I feel very sorry for anyone who lives or works in a city centre and for business I’m mixed race and worked for 40 years mainly in education and would like to think I have been useful to society but those thugs don’t care.

People should carry on I suppose and not let them win but I would not be taking children in under any circumstances this weekend. I endured a lot of racism as a kid in the 1970’s so it is affecting my decision making if honest.

They're supposed to be coming to Walthamstow tonight. The immigration centre is right next to the tube station/opposite McDonalds. I'm going to go to a different station and walk from there. I noticed this morning that the immigration centre is already boarded up.
Walthamstow usually has no time for these arseholes, but I don't want to get caught in the middle of anything.

It's a difficult decision for you and I don't envy people having to decide what's best .

I think personally if it were me I'd prefer if my children didn't get caught up in anything, whatever about adults, they can make a choice for themselves but children need to be protected especially if entering an area that could be dangerous.

There have been many hurt because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Nope.

I am absolutely avoiding everywhere unfortunately
I’m usually very level headed and logical but there’s no way I would be comfortable with this. I planned to take my kids to Liverpool on the train in summer holidays but now I can’t even imagine going to any town centre even in the car. I just don’t feel safe.

For context I am in Southport and I am very shaken up by all the events of the last 9 days. Went to lay some flowers again yesterday and it’s very harrowing. I am so concerned about even sending my children back to school in September

Great for you. White people in areas where whites are a minority are having to think about where they go.

My travels take me around the country and I am not altering my plans, but will be on extra high alert when walking through those areas of city centres where large gangs of young men tend to gather until the schools and colleges go back. These areas have always been hot spots in the summer months, just not picked up by the mass media. In Birmingham there has always been minimal reporting of racially or religiously motivated violence to avoid it kicking off something bigger. It is mostly young male Hindus and Muslims fighting each others, sometimes the Eastern Europeans get involved too. It’s a shame because there was a moment in time when Birmingham could have become a truly integrated city, but now there isn’t much mixing other than in work situations.

Nope. I'm travelling down to Cornwall for the weekend

There are many areas in my Town where I would be a minority and I would still happily go there.
I have said it before here - I would feel safer walking past a Mosque on a Friday afternoon than Wetherspoons on a Saturday afternoon.

We went into Liverpool city centre yesterday in the train and it was fine. No issues in the centre that we saw and it was busy, with lots of people of different ethnicities going about their business. I wouldn’t do it today due to the organised protests. So I’m keeping an eye on what’s happening, when and where and planning around that.

Agree I wouldn’t risk it with children.