How British are you?

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Obviously, when the "protesters" say they are protesting immigration and want "the boat people" to go home what they mean is brown people, not immigrants, but they cannot say this because they are not racist.

So, in their minds, how British do you need to be? The young man who committed the crime that triggered this was Welsh with immigrant parents, so clearly, the children of immigrants are not welcome. What about grandchildren of immigrants? Or great-grandchildren? Are you allowed to stay if you have one British parent?

I'm musing because based on the people I know the country would be empty if we went more than 2 generations back. My Grandmother was an immigrant so I assume I would have to leave, not sure about the DC but DD2 is clearly of Romanian descent so I'd not fancy her chances of being able to stay.

Would you be able to stay?

You have to be white and/or Christian, no? At least in the minds of the EDL and quite a few people, some of whom are on MN.

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I like tea and I apologise if someone bumps into me.

I'm Czech.
Would have loved to fuck off back to Prague
a decade ago, but, obstacles....

Yes it is. White English nationalism. And if you seem to be gay or some sort of leftie then don’t think that’s enough either. The point is they set the rules, no one else

Do you tut loudly too?

98% according to a DNA test, with a little French and German thrown in. I’m basically a Celt

The litmus test is your view on queuing....

I'm white and English and have been shouted at, chased and spat at over the years, purely for being quite dark with black hair and unusual cheekbones.

One of my children is similar looking and had a problem getting back into the UK from abroad.

I am English with a bit of Welsh going back hundreds of years to farmers and agricultural labourers - I like knowing that although I'm very much a city person. Sometimes I've visited small towns or rural areas and had a huge sense of contentment and belonging, and when I've researched my family tree found that my ancestors lived there. It's a big deal to me. My DH would be out on his ear though.

Tbh, I think that the colour of skin is less of an issue than the poverty and social backgrounds. I don't think that people want unplanned illegal migrants or asylum seekers regardless of skin colour. People don't want unskilled young males coming into the country with no or limited employment opportunities or with differing cultural views on say, women. However, I don't think that people particularly object to all the Nigerian and Indian Drs in the NHS or anyone who is skilled, has a job lined up and is going to contribute towards the economy, regardless of skin colour. If you are poor, young, male and illegal you are more likely to turn to crime than someone well qualified or require more state handouts. I don't think that it's just about skin colour. As for Britishness, I think that the degree to which someone regards themselves as being British varies according to whether they were born in the UK and how they were bought up by their parents. If their parents were born in another country with differing culture and they bought their child up according to their own cultural norms and celebrated their own culture, then it's not unreasonable for their child to regard themselves as of dual nationality and culture. I'm married to a foreigner and my children regard themselves as being of dual nationality and are very proud of this. I see them as being more British because they have spent most of the time in the UK. To me it's absolutely fine to recognise that some children whose parents were born in this country will feel more integrated than perhaps those whose parents were born elsewhere. Ultimately though it depends upon their individual circumstances and upbringings.

I am English (and therefore British) but if we are solely basing nationality on genetics I am 0% British.

Both parents are Irish. Irish family going back generations, I have a very Irish name. Ethnically I am 100% Irish.

I happened to be born in England so have a British passport (my sister was born in Ireland so can't get one!) I have been brought up and educated here, I have a very English accent and am proud to work for the NHS (a great British institution).

I feel very English, and I'm very white so would probably never have my Britishness questioned 🙄

I'm British as far back as we have family records. Mostly English but with smatterings of Welsh, Scottish and Irish along the way. Rumours of a Portuguese ancestor many generations back but you'd never guess that to look at me.

My DSis is an immigrant to another European country though. They are fascinated by her ginger hair but otherwise seems to have fully integrated.

However, I don't think that people particularly object to all the Nigerian and Indian Drs in the NHS or anyone who is skilled, has a job lined up and is going to contribute towards the economy, regardless of skin colour.

Some people are pulling brown and black people out of cars and beating them up. Some people are attacking mosques. They aren't enquiring whether they are skilled, employed or contributors. They are just beating up people of a different colour.
In the last week, MN has been absolutely teeming with posters saying non-white people are not British, can never be British, have different values blah blah blah.

Yeah, if it wasn't for the fact my husband and sons currently are not leaving the house through fear they'll be attacked, I would have laughed out loud at that gem.

Both parents born in ROI.
Hold both Irish and British passports

Not very. My mum was born in England but her parents were Austrian and Polish. My dad was born in England to Chinese immigrant parents. I would imagine I belong in the 'send back the boats' category according to these thugs

I'm British. Two British parents, born in Britain. Going back several generations there are Irish and Dutch immigrants but I couldn't claim to be anything but British. Not that I do very often, only when I'm filling in forms.

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I’m Scottish and therefore British I suppose. I rather miss being European.

I have one UK grandparent. Refugees on one side, immigrants on the other. But I am white, so they don't mean me. They possibly mean my daughter, who isn't.

My mothers family descend from Robert Burns sister Margaret.. my fathers from Somerset Quakers in the 17th century... couldn't be more 'British' ... and yet I am concerned for the safety of my half Asian children .. as my first husband is Malaysian...

Tbh, I think that the colour of skin is less of an issue than the poverty and social backgrounds. I don't think that people want unplanned illegal migrants or asylum seekers regardless of skin colour.

And yet ‘we’ welcomed Ukranian refugees, mostly into our homes. Is that because that is planned immigration? Is it ok to come here and be supported by our systems if it is planned?

My family are English, Welsh and Irish at least 5 generations back. My DH had a great grandmother who was from Belgium.

I guess I look ok to them because I'm quite white, both parents Scottish.