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Wwyd - support for protesters on FB

51 replies

Putthewashingout · 05/08/2024 08:23

The local town was subject to a protest yesterday evening. I say protest loosely - as far as i can tell there was no violence but hateful banners “save our kids”, “no more immigrants” etc. A few faces covered. And blocking a road whilst they marched (it was not planned in so far as no road closures had taken place).

Usual split on local FB page between those supporting (“It was peaceful”, “We’ve had enough”, “Standing up for my kids” etc) and those who find it abhorrent,

Anyway, one was comment was something like “If I had heard, I’d have gone as well”. The man who posted the comment had his employer stated on his “about”/bio section on FB (I’ve just looked and he has since removed his employer details although his comment has not been deleted. In fact someone called him out for what he had said and he made a further comment about them being “soy eating” - I think he means they must be left wing).

Anyway, i took screen shots of his comment, his profile and employer from his FB page.

Would you send anonymously to his employer?

I’m dithering as I can see he has a child. And I assume most employers would look dimly upon someone wanting to protest in that way.

I took the screen shots intending to email his employer. But should I?

(To add, the main protest seemed peaceful, and this is what he commented on. There was another protest about 1/4 mile away and that was more threatening. But that hasn’t been reported at the time of his first comment. Also, he had a picture of Trump - the one after he’d been shot with his fist aloft, and he calls him “legend”. And also his cover photo on FB looks to be from another protest - marching people with Union flags - can’t read any signs and no suggestion of violence. The comment I can see one of his friends on that photo is “Why bro?”. There is no response.)

Do i report his comments to his employer? I would be doing it anonymously but sending the screen shots.

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WhereIsBebèsChambre · 05/08/2024 09:27

I wonder if this thread isn't going the 'everyone claps and cheers' way expected?

Frowningprovidence · 05/08/2024 09:31

You can't report someone for having a picture of a presidential candidate in a democratic nation.

Or for saying they might have attended an event if they had been aware of it. They might also have turned up, been shocked, had an epiphany and walked away.

Willsean · 05/08/2024 09:33

Why on earth would you single out and try to 'report' someone who literally didn't attend or do anything, when the event was non violent anyway?

Riapia · 05/08/2024 09:35

If freedom means anything at all it means being able to tell people things that they do not wish to hear.
George Orwell.

Anonym00se · 05/08/2024 09:36

I believe that people should have the right to peacefully protest. I’m poles apart from these protesters in terms of beliefs, but I don’t think they should be silenced.

This man didn’t even attend the protest so what would you report him for? Having a different political opinion to you?

CormorantStrikesBack · 05/08/2024 09:39

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 05/08/2024 09:18

Have I woken up in the Eighties? Are we in East Germany?

Was thinking exactly the same.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 05/08/2024 09:40

CormorantStrikesBack · 05/08/2024 09:39

Was thinking exactly the same.

It terrifies me TBH.
I’ve been there. Don’t want it ever again.

Deder1212 · 05/08/2024 09:44

The irony of calling them right wing and at same time calling for censorship of opinions. Which by definition is fascism

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 05/08/2024 09:48

Deder1212 · 05/08/2024 09:44

The irony of calling them right wing and at same time calling for censorship of opinions. Which by definition is fascism

Well it's the 'look at how GOOD I am, I so support everyone, as long as you think what I think, if you don't, I'll ruin your life'.

blacksax · 05/08/2024 09:51

Deder1212 · 05/08/2024 09:44

The irony of calling them right wing and at same time calling for censorship of opinions. Which by definition is fascism

The censorship of racist opinions is fascism?

I've heard it all now.

1dayatatime · 05/08/2024 10:10

Floofydawg · 05/08/2024 08:39

There's no such thing as normal right wing opinions.

And therein lies the problem.

If in a "democracy " only left wing opinions are deemed acceptable and right wing views are deemed unacceptable to be expressed peacefully and without incitement to violence then the right wing views will not only become more extreme but will be expressed through violent actions.

Hoppinggreen · 05/08/2024 10:13

Much as I loathe the attitudes and actions of these "protesters" I wouldn't report anyone unless they expressed very racist opinions on FB.
I do remove anyone from all my SM who supports any of this nonsense, I blocked my cousin this morning for example and its possible to remain in a FB group but block an individual there so you don't see any posts from them

yhk · 05/08/2024 10:16

I have never understood the mentality of somebody that would go out of their way to tell a person's employer about something that has nothing to do with their work. I assume it's done out of spite, to cause the person as much trouble as they can.

There are some instances where this would be appropriate, however I don't think this is one of them.

Sdpbody · 05/08/2024 10:17

There will be much bigger issues coming... the left need to decide which side to stand on when the time comes.

The people shouting "Allahu Akbar" in the streets of Bolton couldn't give a shit about your leftist views.

1dayatatime · 05/08/2024 10:20

@blacksax

"The censorship of racist opinions is fascism?

I've heard it all now."

Firstly stating " no more immigration" is not racist in itself because it doesn't reference skin colour and simply objects to the number of people migrating legally or illegally to the UK. It maybe your opinion that this is racist but objectively and based on the above words it is not.

Secondly yes the censorship and suppression of opposing opinions is very much a central tenant of fascism (and communism).

Hoppinggreen · 05/08/2024 10:29

Sdpbody · 05/08/2024 10:17

There will be much bigger issues coming... the left need to decide which side to stand on when the time comes.

The people shouting "Allahu Akbar" in the streets of Bolton couldn't give a shit about your leftist views.

Unhinged

AnnaCBi · 05/08/2024 10:39

Putthewashingout · 05/08/2024 08:23

The local town was subject to a protest yesterday evening. I say protest loosely - as far as i can tell there was no violence but hateful banners “save our kids”, “no more immigrants” etc. A few faces covered. And blocking a road whilst they marched (it was not planned in so far as no road closures had taken place).

Usual split on local FB page between those supporting (“It was peaceful”, “We’ve had enough”, “Standing up for my kids” etc) and those who find it abhorrent,

Anyway, one was comment was something like “If I had heard, I’d have gone as well”. The man who posted the comment had his employer stated on his “about”/bio section on FB (I’ve just looked and he has since removed his employer details although his comment has not been deleted. In fact someone called him out for what he had said and he made a further comment about them being “soy eating” - I think he means they must be left wing).

Anyway, i took screen shots of his comment, his profile and employer from his FB page.

Would you send anonymously to his employer?

I’m dithering as I can see he has a child. And I assume most employers would look dimly upon someone wanting to protest in that way.

I took the screen shots intending to email his employer. But should I?

(To add, the main protest seemed peaceful, and this is what he commented on. There was another protest about 1/4 mile away and that was more threatening. But that hasn’t been reported at the time of his first comment. Also, he had a picture of Trump - the one after he’d been shot with his fist aloft, and he calls him “legend”. And also his cover photo on FB looks to be from another protest - marching people with Union flags - can’t read any signs and no suggestion of violence. The comment I can see one of his friends on that photo is “Why bro?”. There is no response.)

Do i report his comments to his employer? I would be doing it anonymously but sending the screen shots.

It’s not a protest. It’s racism. No such thing as a ‘peaceful’ racism. It’s exciting racial hatred, it’s dividing society - anything but peaceful.

M340 · 05/08/2024 11:04

Get a like OP for fuck sake.

Willmafrockfit · 05/08/2024 11:36

M340 · 05/08/2024 11:04

Get a like OP for fuck sake.

i think she was hoping for that!

Babbahabba · 05/08/2024 12:13

If it had been something illegal- inciting violence or hatred, it should be reported to Facebook & the police. It's neither so just leave it alone.

lolly792 · 05/08/2024 13:01

I have never understood the mentality of somebody that would go out of their way to tell a person's employer about something that has nothing to do with their work. I assume it's done out of spite, to cause the person as much trouble as they can.

100% this. And remember - you might think you're anonymous because you're too spineless to put your name to it, but your IP address is traceable.

thursdaymurderclub · 05/08/2024 13:04

Floralsofa · 05/08/2024 08:44

Are you the thought police?

police generally do not advertise what they do on the likes of facebook! same goes for prison staff. for very obvious reasons

BMW6 · 05/08/2024 13:26

PEACEFULLY protesting against immigration is not racist nor unlawful. It is a valid concern to many people of all political persuasions AND ETHNICITY.

Violent disorder is of course unlawful and unwarranted, whatever the "cause" and whoever is doing it.

OlympicsFanGirl · 05/08/2024 13:30

What do you think an employer is going to do?

blacksax · 05/08/2024 19:16

1dayatatime · 05/08/2024 10:20

@blacksax

"The censorship of racist opinions is fascism?

I've heard it all now."

Firstly stating " no more immigration" is not racist in itself because it doesn't reference skin colour and simply objects to the number of people migrating legally or illegally to the UK. It maybe your opinion that this is racist but objectively and based on the above words it is not.

Secondly yes the censorship and suppression of opposing opinions is very much a central tenant of fascism (and communism).

I don't know what you are talking about.

Any group protesting violently (and being eagerly watched and encouraged by hangers-on) about another group for whatever reason is wrong. Violence (including verbal expressions of hatred) towards other demographics simply because they belong to that demographic are wrong. And illegal. That is all.

This crowd is using this 'protect our children' slogan deliberately. After all, who could argue against a seemingly innocent statement like that? 🤔

But we all know the real subtext behind it. And anyone who doesn't is, quite frankly, not bright enough to have a coherent opinion on the matter.