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teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 11:35

Barrister to Huw Edwards has just described his client as a man of exceptional character. Astonishing. Such character that when suspended he immediately claimed mental health and went and hid in the Priory, leaving his wife to face the cameras. And did he resign? Well, not for nearly a year, during which time he accepted a £40,000 pay RISE on top of his annual £425,000. Yeah, real character. When he did eventually resign, he it seems to have been prompted by the fact that he had been charged. What a bloke.

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summerdazey · 31/07/2024 18:11

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 11:35

Barrister to Huw Edwards has just described his client as a man of exceptional character. Astonishing. Such character that when suspended he immediately claimed mental health and went and hid in the Priory, leaving his wife to face the cameras. And did he resign? Well, not for nearly a year, during which time he accepted a £40,000 pay RISE on top of his annual £425,000. Yeah, real character. When he did eventually resign, he it seems to have been prompted by the fact that he had been charged. What a bloke.

The barrister is nothing to do with the BBC and is paid to say nice things. Pay is continued while on suspension most people don't turn down pay rises they are just given them.

HE being a criminal is not the fault of the bbc

Sussurations · 31/07/2024 18:19

If I was the sentencing judge (unlikely. as I’m not a judge at all Grin I’d take a dim view of being told someone who had pleaded guilty to these charges was a person of exceptional character as it’s plainly untrue. I’m sure there is quite a lot that can be said in mitigation, in the sense that HE presumably doesn’t have a criminal record, has maintained a job/career, contributed to society etc, has pleaded guilty, but this shows a lack of insight and remorse that is very telling.

Growsomeballswoman · 31/07/2024 18:21

He had pictures of little boys under 9 - evil bastard

Turophilic · 31/07/2024 18:24

Wtf do his barrister’s comments have to do with the BBC? Anything else you want to blame the national broadcaster for?

Twistybranch · 31/07/2024 18:30

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:59

Sorry to split hairs, but if he claims his client is innocent, the judge will instruct him to change his plea to not guilty and send him for trial.

Saying he is of exceptional character isn’t saying he didn’t do it.
When giving a character reference they aren’t talking about the said crime, they are talking about his standing in society hereto. That he hasn’t had previous convictions etc etc. To help inform the judge when sentencing.

The judge will also take into consideration that he pled guilty and wasn’t found guilty. That means not wasting courts time/money with a court case and having to deal with witnesses.

All these together can help reduce their sentence. Not dramatically but it helps

Beth216 · 31/07/2024 18:31

Pictures of a child between 7 and 9. Vile man.
Why was he given a huge pay rise? I agree with you OP, only the BBC would give a potential (and now definite) paedo a huge pay rise.

Beefcurtains79 · 31/07/2024 18:33

Normallynumb · 31/07/2024 13:42

That's what defence barristers do
It appears to the public that he is has an exceptional character because of his standing at the BBC
Only those who know him personally know if he's a seedy perv.
I was surprised he didn't resign immediately unlike similar presenters in the public eye.

Only those who know him personally know if he’s a seedy perv? He had many photos and videos of child sexual abuse, category A.

I know he’s a depraved pervert, and I don’t need to know him personally to confidently state it.

GoogleWhacking · 31/07/2024 18:35

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:44

Not in any company I've ever worked in

About 30 years ago my best friends Dad who worked (alongside her mum) at HMRC (or whatever it was called back then). He pleaded guilty to 20 counts of sexual abuse of a minor and HMRC let him keep his job after he got a suspended. In fact my best friends Mother had to leave her job as they expected her to work alongside the man who abused her children.

Summernightsinthe21stcentury · 31/07/2024 18:36

As I read it he asked whoever was sending them not to send underage photos.
I am not excusing him, but as others have said, his barrister will point out anything favourable to mitigate the sentence that will be handed out.
I am not sure the BBC knew last year that he was charged with this crime. I believe he was charged in June this year.

PoliteOtter · 31/07/2024 18:48

The role of a barrister is to ensure a fair trial and advocate for their client. It does not mean the barrister has no moral compass. In this case Huw has pleaded guilty and the barrister is presumably advocating for a fair sentence. Fair doesn’t mean lenient. And the barrister doesn’t work for the BBC so I am not sure what the thread title means? Presumably Huw’s pay was inflated along with everyone else’s when he was suspended but I am not sure. That will presumably be determined by employment law.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 18:51

Pedallleur · 31/07/2024 18:01

He was charged but unless those charges were/are proved or a guilty plea entered then there is always the presumption of innocence. What part of that do you not understand? Now a guilty plea is entered it's about mitigation.

Edited

Err, you are just repeating exactly what I said. He pleaded guilty and will be sentenced

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teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 18:51

Summernightsinthe21stcentury · 31/07/2024 18:36

As I read it he asked whoever was sending them not to send underage photos.
I am not excusing him, but as others have said, his barrister will point out anything favourable to mitigate the sentence that will be handed out.
I am not sure the BBC knew last year that he was charged with this crime. I believe he was charged in June this year.

Read the BBC statement. They knew in November 2023

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 31/07/2024 18:57

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:09

Well, its getting better by the hour. The BBC now admits it knew in November 2023 that Edwards had been charged. Yet they went on paying his full salary, including a pay rise. As I said, only at the BBC.

No, they knew he'd been arrested. He wasn't charged until more recently.

They've said (and you can believe them or not), that he wouldn't have kept his job if he'd still be employed when he was actually charged.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 18:57

GoogleWhacking · 31/07/2024 18:35

About 30 years ago my best friends Dad who worked (alongside her mum) at HMRC (or whatever it was called back then). He pleaded guilty to 20 counts of sexual abuse of a minor and HMRC let him keep his job after he got a suspended. In fact my best friends Mother had to leave her job as they expected her to work alongside the man who abused her children.

Shocking, but it was many years ago.

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Chersfrozenface · 31/07/2024 18:59

Hardly "only at the BBC". Phillip Schofield was working at ITV.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 19:00

Sussurations · 31/07/2024 18:19

If I was the sentencing judge (unlikely. as I’m not a judge at all Grin I’d take a dim view of being told someone who had pleaded guilty to these charges was a person of exceptional character as it’s plainly untrue. I’m sure there is quite a lot that can be said in mitigation, in the sense that HE presumably doesn’t have a criminal record, has maintained a job/career, contributed to society etc, has pleaded guilty, but this shows a lack of insight and remorse that is very telling.

Well said. I thought it was a stupid remark. Quite clearly he is NOT of good character, certainly not exceptional. The barrister seems to be confusing this word with famous

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teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 19:00

Chersfrozenface · 31/07/2024 18:59

Hardly "only at the BBC". Phillip Schofield was working at ITV.

May I point out the HUGE difference? The BBC is funded by US

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PoliteOtter · 31/07/2024 19:01

The BBC corporation knew (HR presumably) in November that he has been arrested but BBC News didn’t. He resigned in April. He hadn’t been charged yet. If he had been charged, they have said he would have been dismissed. Presumably this is employment law. Unless you work with children - then I think you can be dismissed if there a balance of probability that you are guilty.

LindorDoubleChoc · 31/07/2024 19:02

However you at look at it, the pay rise is appalling!

Chersfrozenface · 31/07/2024 19:04

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 19:00

May I point out the HUGE difference? The BBC is funded by US

The title of the thread is "Only at the BBC".

Not, for instance "Disgraceful of a broadcaster funded by us".

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 19:08

LindorDoubleChoc · 31/07/2024 19:02

However you at look at it, the pay rise is appalling!

Hope he got his usual Christmas Hamper

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Notinmylifethyme · 31/07/2024 19:09

Pedallleur · 31/07/2024 11:53

There are but lots of people have secrets. He is/was just a newsreader, susceptible to all the foibles people have. Believing that someone eg who reads the news on TV has a moral compass is foolish. Boris was PM and he certainly had none. Other MPs, TV people and ordinary folk are available.

Being involved in the abuse of children is more than just a secret and not some passing error of judgement. I'm more than disappointed. His deceit disgusts me.

I don't know the man. But I hope he rots.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 31/07/2024 19:09

I've often wondered this too. I mean, I know it's their job and they probably get paid a tidy penny but does your moral compass not come in somewhere???

People who do this work will tell you that the system only works with robust prosecution and defence - it needs both sides to work in order to be effective. We have seen some of what can happen when the system is rigged, so should be grateful that people are willing to go out to do this work.

but if the person has said they're guilty, there's no way I could stand there to try to get them off or lessen the blow for them. No way.

Yes, it does not work that way. If your client tells you they are guilty, you cannot then claim they are innocent. That would be perjury. Lessen the blow - that is the job of lawyers always. But it is up to the judge to decide at the end of the day.

Changingplace · 31/07/2024 19:12

Beth216 · 31/07/2024 18:31

Pictures of a child between 7 and 9. Vile man.
Why was he given a huge pay rise? I agree with you OP, only the BBC would give a potential (and now definite) paedo a huge pay rise.

Not defending his actions which are vile, but it was the standard payrise across all staff that he got while he was suspended, not a specific payrise for him personally.

LlynTegid · 31/07/2024 19:13

I agree it does not look good for the BBC, especially when you consider it following on from Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall.

The barrister is only doing his job though.

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