Winter fuel payments for pensioners scrapped

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Unless they are in receipt of pension credit or other benefits.

I suspect this will be the first of many benefits which will be restricted as part of cost-cutting measures.

What else might we see / should we see?

If they were on a cruise they’d probably paid a heck of a lot more VAT than £200…they’d just be getting a little bit of a rebate!

But when elections come round you must remember how much the Labour Party values those who came before and have done so much to make us who we are.

Why? did OAPs worry about what came after them when they voted tory for 14 years or voted to leave in their droves

And I was looking forward to it.

Its a funny thing "older age". You never think its going to happen to you, until it does.

Yes. I agree that this group of people need consideration.

No, my aunt is busy spending her estate on her care in her accommodation. She has no one to leave it to- it is left to charities. I am sure my uncle would have wanted her to look after herself. They sold their house 28 years ago and down-sized at 65 to a small rented house. She now lives in a 1 bedroomed rented flat with care available.

My PIL can do as they please- their money, not our business.

Lots of pensioners have no savings.
just because the ones in your family will
be ok, doesn’t mean that all pensioners will be.

You sound very envious!

This is a good thing.
DM gets fuel payments but her pension is as much as I earn!

What discretionary pot? When I lost my job during Covid, was totally broke and struggling to pay my bills, both my local council and energy company offered me loans. Racking up huge amounts of debt isn't a solution in my eyes.

Wonder if they will start restricting the free funded childcare hours to those whose both parents work (at 3 all children get 15hts) or to those on UC etc?
many wealthy families could pay for their hours. The ones who will be cruising and not need the money? Same with free school meals?

I really feel for the pensioners who are just an over credit level. Heating has risen so much in cost.

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cruises are zero rated for VAT

So if you haven't made enough NI conts to qualify for a full pension you get pension credits? Is that right?
So those that made the required payments or have sensibly saved don't get it is that it?
Seems bizarre that those who 'do the right thing' are punished again.
And lots on here braying for it on the basis that their mums and dads don't need it as though anecdote is data.
I think this is a disgusting decision and feel very sorry for any pensioner just over the threshold.

They will get the payment if born before 1957. I checked after reading this thread and that is the case.

Pensioners don’t vote labour? Where the hell did you find this ridiculous fact?

That is sad, working enough for that takes years

Laughable.

I look like a harmless old granny but......

Absolutely brilliant. Pensioners are the new Elon Musks and Lord Ashcrofts on MN.

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Well if they try to do anything with Carers allowance they will be in for a shock. Most of us caring for adult DC are just hanging in there. Most of us are wondering when to hand over to adult social care completely.

As it is the general advice is to push into independent living / full social services hours and any work you do as carer charge at the proper hourly rate.

The £82 per week is not great but it’s an acknowledgment for the many hours weekly.

I was just looking for this

I thought it was for pensioners on pension credit only. I still think that tbh. I don’t think mum’s age is going to make a difference.

@TheWordWomanIsTaken yes, that's how I understand it. If you haven't paid enough NI over your working years, you don't get the full state pension so you get it topped up to the full amount by pension credit. And also qualify for a number of other schemes, like boiler repair, council tax support, winter fuel etc.

But if you've got your 35 years' contributions, you get state pension and that's it.

Definitely fair! No OAP I know needs it.

I'm 74 and have always voted Labour,

Totally agree.

They won’t do this because they need people go out and work to pay for all of these things! Winter fuel payments, triple locks, social care, the NHS, the list goes on. All paid for by the taxes of working people. Giving them a bit of childcare help is literally the very least the state could do.