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Potty training non verbal toddler

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Senparentingwoes · 26/07/2024 20:49

Dd is 2.5. We started potty training yesterday and it went surprisingly well. First day, no accidents! However she was sitting on the potty for a long time and not necessarily recognising that she had went (I only saw when I peeked in the potty). Today was good also, up until about 5pm when she suddenly had 7 accidents back to back, 3 in 15 minutes. Is this normal, should I persevere or wait a little while longer? She is on the waiting list for a neuro development assessment and I think it’s likely she is ASD (older daughter is also).

she is wearing a nappy at night (obviously). When I potty trained my dd6 we stayed home for 3/4 days and just did bare bum which I feel was effective. However dd6 is autistic and awaiting adhd assessment and I just cannot do the days at home, especially during the summer holidays as she is like a pressure pot if we don’t get out 🥲 unfortunately no family support here.

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Martymcfly24 · 26/07/2024 20:54

Id wait a little longer. She's quite young even without the additional needs. My dd is also autistic at 2 and half she had no words at all and honestly I never thought she would train.
By 3 yrs 10 months her language Had come on enough for her to potty train. It did take longer than my other dd but we got there. We did find bare bum method didn't work as she would do great and then as soon as a knickers would go on she presumed it was a nappy and would pee herself. If language is an issue a visual is great for her.
She's 6 now and has no accidents at all

Senparentingwoes · 28/07/2024 12:15

@Martymcfly24 i think you are probably right! Now day 4 and she’s still unable to communicate when she needs to go. Even sitting her on the potty, she will sit for 20 mins and then get up and pee on the floor. I’ve had a read of the oh crap book and feel like she definitely should be getting some understanding 😞 was hoping to tackle it while on AL from work but looks like I’ll have to delay a few months!

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Kitkat1523 · 28/07/2024 12:29

I would persevere ….look at Eric website….the new thinking is starting potty learning at around 6 to 8 months….especially important for send children with routine

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JustToBeMe · 28/07/2024 12:38

Kitkat1523 · 28/07/2024 12:29

I would persevere ….look at Eric website….the new thinking is starting potty learning at around 6 to 8 months….especially important for send children with routine

Interesting!
Can you give me a link?

Kitkat1523 · 28/07/2024 12:41

No I’m shit at links…but I will put a pic on then you can google

the thinking is that kids learn by routine ….so as soon as they can sit up put them on potty even if they don’t do anything…..always change them in the bathroom so they associate elimination with the bathroom….that type of thing…..very important for send kids…..if they’ve been changed here there and everywhere and then you trying to get them in the bathroom …..it can be really stressful

Potty training non verbal toddler
jannier · 28/07/2024 12:43

Senparentingwoes · 28/07/2024 12:15

@Martymcfly24 i think you are probably right! Now day 4 and she’s still unable to communicate when she needs to go. Even sitting her on the potty, she will sit for 20 mins and then get up and pee on the floor. I’ve had a read of the oh crap book and feel like she definitely should be getting some understanding 😞 was hoping to tackle it while on AL from work but looks like I’ll have to delay a few months!

I hate that book....30 years of potty training always with pants....wait awhile 20 mins sitting is too long .....can she hold wees for an hour consistently? Is she showing any awareness? Do a bit of nappy free before her bath so she associates the feeling of being wet with a full bladder.....traditional training pants contain the mess.

cestlavielife · 28/07/2024 12:45

Use makaton toilet sign hand over hand when on potty.
Keep trying in summer she can be naked

Twofifty · 28/07/2024 12:58

I signed with my non verbal ND DC, we were done by 2. Personally I think accidents are part of learning so I'd persevere. You can go out, take a potty with you. There will be differences from the ND - mine is now 8 and still needs prompting to go, has occasional accidents, and refuses to flush.

Senparentingwoes · 28/07/2024 13:39

@Twofifty how did you go about teaching to sign? I’ve tried but she doesn’t pay much attention to me. I’ve been going out and taking the potty but she won’t go on it outside. I think the only reason we’ve had some minor success is because she’s sat so long, if that makes sense? I’ve tried popping her on when out and about and she won’t go on cue, if that makes sense!

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Senparentingwoes · 28/07/2024 13:40

@jannier its definitely given me a wobble reading it! It says potty training g should be done between 20-30 months and ideally 24! She can hold it for an hour id say, but then she has peed on the floor 3x in the space of fifteen minutes so hard to tell! 🙈

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Senparentingwoes · 28/07/2024 13:42

@Twofifty also to say my 6 year old is very similar to your 8 year old. She needs a lot of prompting and does have accidents occasionally. Absolutely refuses to flush or use public toilets due to hand dryers and a fear of locking the door.. a little better now we have a radar key but still an issue! She is also still in pull ups at night.

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Twofifty · 28/07/2024 15:30

@Senparentingwoes radar key is genius, thanks for mentioning that! With signing I just did a sign every time I said the word, and repeat it, eg, "do you need a weewee? Weewee?". I used about 10 signs in total I think (drink, more, yes etc), and I used the same sign for both wee and poo. It doesn't matter what the sign is, you could make something up, I used a chest tap which DC did as a tummy tap as I think it was easier.
I did get DC to sit on the potty and wait for something to happen. We watched a lot of Elmo's potty song!

Senparentingwoes · 30/07/2024 19:14

I’ve decided to throw in the towel and try again at Christmas. Feel a little gutted tbh. We had a lot of success over the past 2 days, but only because I was in top of her the whole time and putting her on the potty every two hours. I don’t think she’s getting the urge at all. Tried to get her to go after dinner and she refused, two minutes later she peed all over the floor. Then as soon as I put her bed time nappy on her she pooped and wee’d in it straight away. Just feel so disappointed which is ridiculous I know. My older DDs behaviour has been absolutely awful the last few days I think because I’ve been so distracted with the potty training. She punched me in the face during a meltdown yesterday. ☹️ all I needed was a little hope.

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