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Free school meals - 'card'?

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Coldstarrynight · 26/07/2024 15:24

Hi, Apologies for ignorance but don't know anyone who has free school meals who I can ask.

A child I know signed up recently for the first time for free meals. When I saw them a while later, they said they'd been told there was no money on the card? I don't really understand what the card is.

Is it like having a credit card and it's charged up? The child was at school for the one day before school holidays which was more of a look around and introduction etc.

Would this be why there is no money on this card?

The child speaks very little English as does the parent so it's hard to really clarify.

I will get in touch with someone at the school but want to ascertain at first that there is an actual problem and find out a bit about how it works. Many thanks.

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TeenToTwenties · 26/07/2024 15:28

At the secondary my DD went to they paid by their ID card (and later fingerprints)
Those on FSMs got a certain amount put on their card automatically daily that could only be spent on proper meals, not chocolate bars. So they apparently paid the same way as everyone else, no singling them out.

If it was a one day lookaround then there wouldn't be money yet on the card, the family should have been forewarned, ideally.

Needmorelego · 26/07/2024 15:32

Meals in schools are usually cash free so pupils have a electronic payment card that either the parents top up with money or (I assume) with free school meals the money is put on by the school.
This child's card probably won't have been loaded up with anything as it will be from next September when the new school year starts.
Top ups are usually done online via a website (Parent Pay is one - but schools use all sorts of different ones). The parents should have been given information about that.
If they haven't they will need to wait until September unfortunately.

Comefromaway · 26/07/2024 15:35

Usually everyone is given their meal card/fingerprint taken either on the new intake day or the first day of the new term. At my son's school arrangements were made via the primary school to ensure that those on free school meals got their free meal they were entitled to on new intake day so it looks like something has gone amiss there.

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Maddy70 · 26/07/2024 15:36

There is only enough for the basic meal deal. If they want something at break time or in addition (eg a drink instead of. Tap water) thats an additional cost

Coldstarrynight · 26/07/2024 15:55

Thanks, everyone. Yes, I did think that it might be because term hasn't actually started yet. I meant to say, this is at a secondary school, not a primary, if that makes any difference.

At least I'm clearer now and will see what happens when term starts.

It's all so different from when I had FSMs! We were just given five blue tickets off a big roll every Monday morning! Yes, I am really old!!:)

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Eart · 26/07/2024 16:08

My son has FSM.

He has a card, like a debit card.

If he gets the 'meal deal' of the day it's free.

If he buys anything else it costs me money.

He doesn't like the meal deals so top up his card to the tune of about £15 every week 😐

So if he's trying to get things like drinks, crisps, chips or snacks at breaktime it will be trying to take money off the card, as these aren't included in FSM.

Coldstarrynight · 26/07/2024 16:22

Thank you for taking the time to answer. I will need to find out exactly how the school operates with this and make sure the family understands. I can see how it could get very confusing.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/07/2024 17:27

It's simple but complex. It's like loading a prepaid debit card or travel card in advance, just that his one has an automatic credit for FSM each day that has to be used on that day (it comes off his account and the next day's credit appears the following morning if it's unused).

Parent claims FSM (by the way, as it's a phase change to secondary, it's wise for them to reapply in September to ensure his entitlement continues). This is then marked on his electronic student record.

This student record then links to his payment account and his account is automatically credited with a set amount for FSM each day.

The school/MAT decides whether this can be used at either break or lunch or just at lunch and whether it covers the full cost of a meal deal (that bit is vulnerable to the catering firms deciding to put their prices up over the FSM amount and whether the school could afford to top up anything up to a thousand kids per day or is more robust in negotiations with contractors).

Parents can also put on additional credit that can be used to go towards other items.

This account then links to his card and the tills system (the card is linked by the child going to the tills usually on the first day), so once he is on roll at the school, he is able to pay for a meal in exactly the same way that kids whose parents credit their account pay for theirs.

There should have been something in the paperwork for his Transition Day that told them to bring a packed lunch, as the new school doesn't receive any funding for meals until they are officially on roll and attending the school.

If for some reason, he is told there's no money on it in September, he needs to go to his Head of Year or Pastoral staff member and say he should be FSM. They will likely sort him out a meal and try to help the parents.

The same payment account login details are also used to pay for other things in school, such as trips - they'll need to login and select the specific payment item for that to work.

If they give consent for biometrics (there should be either a paper form to sign or they can give electronic consent on some of the Parent Communication apps used by schools), instead of the card that can be lost or stolen, they'll scan his thumbprints at the tills and these will generate a unique number based upon a number of reference points on the print. This has the advantage that you can't lose your thumbs playing football on the field with your mates or have your thumbs stolen from your blazer as you leave it laying around at the side of the playground. The machines do not store the thumbprint, they only store the unique number. Each time he puts his thumb on the scanner, this generates the same number again and this matches his thumb to his account.

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