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What are labour doing to help people I poverty /low income/cost of living

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Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 10:05

Hi is anyone able to explain to me in simple terms what labour are doing for familys in poverty/low income /struggling.

The only thing I have heard about is setting up free breakfast clubs for all.

Im Wondering about people in work but low wage /income.

Also people who are not able to work. For what ever reason ie carer , disability, etc

Or people who are out of work but finding it hard to get suitable work.

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bluebee17 · 18/07/2024 12:06

Gonnaenodothat · 18/07/2024 10:34

Id be surprised if they did anything of use really 😕

No change from the last 14 years then

Creamnose · 18/07/2024 12:08

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 12:05

But what are the task force doing to end poverty?

House building. Is this for people to buy? Or is it social housing for homeless families

Have you tried reading a newspaper?

They've set out very clearly what the taskforce will do and how the housebuilding will help.

Alwaystired94 · 18/07/2024 12:08

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 12:05

But what are the task force doing to end poverty?

House building. Is this for people to buy? Or is it social housing for homeless families

There will always be both - there are quotas on all new builds for social housing.

They have also spoken about better protection for private renters, which is a big one. Considering how many in poverty are in private rent accomodation.

It can't all be done day 1, working to reduce poverty isn't as simple as one policy. There are so many factors all combining to cause it. Energy Companies/Lack of social housing/Slum landlords charging insane rent/Lack of job security/Prices being insane being a few.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

BigBoysDontCry · 18/07/2024 12:10

Creamnose · 18/07/2024 12:04

She doesn't know which families use breakfast club and why/why not. She only has her perception of that.

No, I have my experience of that. Why do you think your experience is more valid than mine?

Is it possible that both are valid as we are talking about different areas and different families?

You come across as a know it all to be honest. I very much hope that help gets to those who need it and if you work in that arena I hope you do a good job.

I'd have loved this to be available when I was a child.

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 12:13

Creamnose · 18/07/2024 12:08

Have you tried reading a newspaper?

They've set out very clearly what the taskforce will do and how the housebuilding will help.

The reason I asked for things to be explained in simple terms is because I don't understand alot of it. I have learning difficulties and things that may seem simple for others are not for me. Hence why I asked

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Alwaystired94 · 18/07/2024 12:14

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 12:13

The reason I asked for things to be explained in simple terms is because I don't understand alot of it. I have learning difficulties and things that may seem simple for others are not for me. Hence why I asked

Simple Politics on instagram is a good way to get easily digestible information on our politics :)

Reugny · 18/07/2024 12:20

Alwaystired94 · 18/07/2024 11:39

Agreed.

I remember the Stigma of being the Free School Meals kid, you lined up separately from everyone else. Making everyone have access helps remove that negative association.

Didn't happen at my primary nor secondary schools.

Infant school for a couple of years under the horrid racist head - you put your money on squares per day and those who got FSM didn't have to. This went on for 2 years then the policy changed so all dinner money was handed in weekly in an envelope. As this envelope could be handed in preferably by parents but sometimes the child, the class teachers knew to say it has been sorted already. This carried on into junior school. The junior school head eventually became the head of the entire primary school. The policy was instigated by the PTA due to lots of complaints about the horrid head and the fact one of the PTA fostered so her foster children had to deal with it.

Secondary school we got tokens. There was an active black market in tokens. So you could sell your own or buy a token of someone who didn't want lunch.

Pieceofpurplesky · 18/07/2024 12:28

Breakfast club worked brilliantly at my previous two schools as it was the first food lots of the kids had eaten since their lunch the day before.

Not all schools have parents who are well off so each school is different.

OP the idea of the Labour Party is to ensure that kids are fed, educated and set for life (eg teeth brushing being taught - have taught many kids at 13+ who have a mouthful of brown and rotten teeth and lack of dentists now will make that worse).

They will put back the support (The Sure Start centres were fantastic) for parents struggling and make working contracts fairer.

Abouttthat · 18/07/2024 12:29

Instead of setting up breakfast clubs they need to up the funding for school lunches. Currently the government pay £2.53 per head for children receiving UFSM, mean if the provider charges more (because they can't charge any less to run things there end), the school have to make up the difference per child which obviously they cannot afford.

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 12:30

Alwaystired94 · 18/07/2024 12:14

Simple Politics on instagram is a good way to get easily digestible information on our politics :)

I don't use insta

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Alwaystired94 · 18/07/2024 12:33

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 12:30

I don't use insta

hmm i think you can view it online if you search?

littlegrebe · 18/07/2024 12:40

One of the main reasons people have been getting poorer is the costs of everything (food, electricity, rent etc) have been going up faster than wages. This is because the last government stopped spending money, meaning there was less money going around the system - and then Brexit made it worse by cutting us off from trade and making it more expensive to bring in things we need, like food that doesn't grow well in the UK.

Housing has been getting expensive because people who already have homes keep objecting to more homes being built near them, so there aren't enough houses to go around. So the new government will make it easier to get planning permission to build new housing. As well as increasing the number of houses this will mean more jobs, and the more jobs there are the higher wages employers will have to pay to attract staff.

When more people who can work are earning a good wage, the government gets more money in taxes which they can then use to help people who can't work.

There isn't an easy answer because it's a complicated problem but what it comes down to is when lots of things are happening it's good for the economy, and this government is going to make things happen.

Scarletrunner · 18/07/2024 12:40

There's no money so they can't do anything yet.
I would like to see a breakdown of why some families are starving etc.
Are they all 2 parent families both working full time (the hard working families we hear about) or are the absconded Dads not paying their whack, or have the parents drug and alchohol problems. Each of these requires different support imv.

FyodorDForever · 18/07/2024 13:05

Abouttthat · 18/07/2024 12:29

Instead of setting up breakfast clubs they need to up the funding for school lunches. Currently the government pay £2.53 per head for children receiving UFSM, mean if the provider charges more (because they can't charge any less to run things there end), the school have to make up the difference per child which obviously they cannot afford.

Yes. In Y3 when the school meals are not free anymore for families not receiving benefits we saw almost all the middle class kids switch to packed lunches.
If the quality was better a lot would have stayed on school meals but nobody wants to pay for a meal that your DC says is not good and is a tiny portion.

HappiestSleeping · 18/07/2024 13:23

@Asking2024 the reality is that nobody can answer your question at this point. The inconvenient truth is that the Labour Party made lots of sweeping statements in their manifesto that did not have any detail about how those things would be accomplished. (This is not a criticism).

They did this for two reasons.

  1. they wanted to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. This means all the people who would have voted Conservative but are pissed off with the Conservative party, and also the far left traditional Labour voters. The minute they said anything definitive, they risk losing some or either of those ends of the political spectrum.
  2. whilst they have had some access to the true state of things, it is only when they have full access (i.e. having been elected) that they can see the true horror situation that they have inherited.

I would much prefer that they take stock and make considered adjustments, and it looks promising that this will happen. They will, of course, look for the items that are easy and obvious, and do those immediately.

Your question relates to something much more deep and far reaching, and will take time and thought to solve. Possibly longer than the term this government has. Let's face it, if it was easy to do, it would have been done by now by many previous governments of either side.

As such, we are unlikely to see anything until at least the first budget which won't be much before September, more likely during or after.

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 13:26

FyodorDForever · 18/07/2024 13:05

Yes. In Y3 when the school meals are not free anymore for families not receiving benefits we saw almost all the middle class kids switch to packed lunches.
If the quality was better a lot would have stayed on school meals but nobody wants to pay for a meal that your DC says is not good and is a tiny portion.

I thought that all primary school children got fsm now? My primary children get free school meals . They are small eaters so it's fine for them.

The secondary free school meals are. Awful dd said they have. A panini tiny juice carton, a cookie. Often the ques are so long that children spend their whole break queuing and some don't get to eat .

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mickandrorty · 18/07/2024 13:35

FyodorDForever · 18/07/2024 13:05

Yes. In Y3 when the school meals are not free anymore for families not receiving benefits we saw almost all the middle class kids switch to packed lunches.
If the quality was better a lot would have stayed on school meals but nobody wants to pay for a meal that your DC says is not good and is a tiny portion.

The meals offered by our school are so bad 99% of the time my year 1 child asks for a home pack up, there are 3 or 4 meals in the whole monthly rotation he likes and he is not a particularly fussy eater. Also I assume the portions are small as on the odd occasion he does have a school dinner he is grumpy & hungry at pick up time.

RazzleDazzleEm · 18/07/2024 13:52

All the issues are same all over eu.
We've herb in back to back global crisis.

For me on nmw raising the threshold did help for tax and ni.

I don't expect labour to do anything for me at all.
Our infrastructure where we live is creaking under the strain of the volume of of people using services. Our roads are pretty constantly gridlocked and hospital is 30 mins on a good day worse on a bar day.

Reugny · 18/07/2024 20:54

Asking2024 · 18/07/2024 13:26

I thought that all primary school children got fsm now? My primary children get free school meals . They are small eaters so it's fine for them.

The secondary free school meals are. Awful dd said they have. A panini tiny juice carton, a cookie. Often the ques are so long that children spend their whole break queuing and some don't get to eat .

Depends on where you live in the UK.

In London all primary kids get free school meals.

Reugny · 18/07/2024 20:55

mickandrorty · 18/07/2024 13:35

The meals offered by our school are so bad 99% of the time my year 1 child asks for a home pack up, there are 3 or 4 meals in the whole monthly rotation he likes and he is not a particularly fussy eater. Also I assume the portions are small as on the odd occasion he does have a school dinner he is grumpy & hungry at pick up time.

That's just your school.

Some schools are worse and some schools are better.

Reugny · 18/07/2024 20:58

RazzleDazzleEm · 18/07/2024 13:52

All the issues are same all over eu.
We've herb in back to back global crisis.

For me on nmw raising the threshold did help for tax and ni.

I don't expect labour to do anything for me at all.
Our infrastructure where we live is creaking under the strain of the volume of of people using services. Our roads are pretty constantly gridlocked and hospital is 30 mins on a good day worse on a bar day.

What do you need done?

Energy prices that stay consistent?
Adult children being able to afford their own home so they move out of yours?
School aged children having a teacher trained in the subject and the school not falling down?
Trains that aren't cancelled at the last minute leaving you stranded?
Access to a GP within a reasonable time frame?
Shorter waiting lists so you are able to see a consultant and then for the operation without having to wait 2 years?

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