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Worried about neighbour..should I do more?

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FTMaz · 15/07/2024 16:47

We moved to our home around 2 years ago and became friendly with the neighbours opposite us. When I say friendly we chat when we see them and they came to a party we had, we don’t spend time socially with them. For the sake of this thread I will call them Sarah and Tom. They have 4 children of varying ages from 17-10.

last time I saw them to chat to I noticed that Sarah looked very thin and she had a bruise on her face. I mentioned this to my partner an he agreed that she looked thin but didn’t notice the bruise. Tom had mentioned my partner the week before how he was having problems with his oldest son.

today me and my partner were in my sons nursery which at the front of the house and I heard Sarah shouting. I could see her from my window very upset (crying) and shouting ‘let me go just leave me alone’ she was being followed by her oldest son and youngest who was crying saying ‘mom please don’t leave’ things were escalating with Sarah becoming more upset as was the youngest child. I said to my partner it’s not right for me to ignore this she needs help so I went over.

when I got these she was extremely upset and gave me a massive hug crying. She said that her oldest son is horrible to her and that he gets physical with her. I tried to persuade her to come over to my house, in doing so the youngest son appeared at the door and said ‘I don’t know why he doesn’t just leave you alone please don’t leave’. I told him that he could come over too and let’s have a drink and calm down. She was adamant that she needed to go to an appointment so I told her to come over whenever she wanted, if my car was there I’m in. I asked her if her husband knew what the son was doing and she said he did.

later that morning she messaged me asking if she could come for a coffee tomorrow and thanking me for coming over, of course I said yes.

I am worried as Tom very much comes across as the type of man who would not allow his son to be physical towards his mother. Tom is well built and ex military, I can not imagine him being afraid of the son and it is making me think if he does know what the son is like when he isn’t there (he works long hours). I am also worried that she is in danger if the son is physical, with him being the oldest there is not a lot the younger siblings can do if this gets out of hand. She has my number and when I see her tomorrow I will reiterate that she can come at any time, I would like her younger son to know that too. I did also say to her that if she wants the older son out the house for a couple of hours I’ll take him (I have lots of experience working with older teenagers in a safeguarding role). I think due to my job I am all too aware of how domestic situations can play out but I also know that teenagers are a handful. I would like some reassurance that her husband is aware of the extent of the problem.

any suggestions on what else I can/should be doing?

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Iseeyoupekingduck · 15/07/2024 18:12

It sounds like they need professional services involvement and to be honest I know your trying to be supportive but you could end up bringing a lot of trouble upon yourself. It also is very odd that like you say the father is built like he would not tolerate this behaviour and especially being in the army.

longdistanceclaraclara · 15/07/2024 18:24

I wouldn't get involved. Report to the relevant channels and it sounds like you know why they would be.

MissMoneyFairy · 15/07/2024 18:30

Do not have the son at your house, you know nothing about him. Does she want your help. I would contact social services and the police if you feel she is in danger. Has she tried to get help, how old is the son.

BobbyBiscuits · 15/07/2024 18:32

I'd be wary of getting involved. I know you mean well, but already there's all these assumptions going on in your head and you really don't know them well enough to make a judgement.
I'm presuming if the elder son is abusive then it would be SS that needs involving. But if I were you I'd think twice before making yourself too available to this family. It sounds quite distressing and to be quite frank it's only them that can sort it out with help.
Don't block her or anything but try and keep a healthy distance.

FTMaz · 15/07/2024 18:46

Hi
thanks for the advice but I don’t agree with not getting involved. It’s all too easy to keep to yourself and ignore those who need support, I am community minded person, I’m not worried about getting involved I know how to keep myself safe.

in reluctant to inform services as it stands. Having worked in SS myself I know the threshold for their involvement and at best it would meet early help intervention which is voluntary.

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purplecorkheart · 15/07/2024 19:04

You cannot have the older son in your home. You have no idea what this issues this child has. You mention that you were in your child's nursery. You need to protect your own child. This family needs help and support. Social services need to be informed. The fact that you state that you have worked with Social Service but also comment about the Dad being ex Military so question what is happening shows that you need to remove yourself.

FTMaz · 15/07/2024 19:15

purplecorkheart · 15/07/2024 19:04

You cannot have the older son in your home. You have no idea what this issues this child has. You mention that you were in your child's nursery. You need to protect your own child. This family needs help and support. Social services need to be informed. The fact that you state that you have worked with Social Service but also comment about the Dad being ex Military so question what is happening shows that you need to remove yourself.

I have no idea what you mean by this. I agree the older son shouldn't be in my home.

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MissMoneyFairy · 15/07/2024 20:33

You did say you'd take the older son, where would you take him,

AzureAnt · 15/07/2024 20:38

Why the hell would you offer to take a violent teenager into your home,? Are you mad?
Why isn't this youths father dealing with his behaviour?

FailBetter · 15/07/2024 20:52

Well, I think you sound bloody awesome and I'd be grateful to have you as a neighbour.

Sometimes it's nice just to have a safe space or place to calm.

I work in education. You've done safeguarding.
Sometimes a teenager just needs a change of surroundings to vent.
They'll act out at home with the person they're closest to (does not mean any dv or threats of violence is mitigated obvs) but can act very differently with a stranger/professional.

I'd have the Brew tomorrow and just listen and let her pour her heart out.
Open door policy for the 10 year old.
Signpost any help for the 17 year old - referrals will take forever but some LAs might have art therapy or anger management courses.

PennyApril54 · 09/01/2025 16:55

I think it's good to offer the support that she can come to you for a chat etc but I don't think you should offer to have the older boy .. he much older and I doubt he'd come over to yours on his mum's instruction anyway but this is too involved, could be dangerous for you and just seems an unnecessary step. I think offering friendship to mum is the best you can do. How much she tells her husband etc is up to her and I don't think you should involve yourself in this part further either .
Nice of you to support her though, well done. I'm sure it was reassuring for younger boy to have you there too, quite frightening for him.

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