I'm sure this is none of my business, but it's bothering me

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I live across the road from a Primary school.

Yesterday afternoon, for a sustained period I could hear a man really ranting, screaming and shouting from the classroom opposite. Their classroom door and my windows were open, but the class is across a wide road and some green space and I could hear it in inside my house.

I'm not a teacher, I briefly worked in school some years ago and the one occasion there was shouting like that, it stopped very quickly and adults from nearby classrooms went to find out what on earth was going on. It was that unusual and not "allowed". (On that occasion a teacher had responded to a child doing something dangerous)

Presumably, adults inside the school must have heard and will have taken appropriate action to support the adult and children and necessary....?

It's statistically more likely that a male yelling in a primary classroom is the Head. Doesn't make it OK, but it's worth bearing in mind that if you don't check who the Head is first that you're complaining to the culprit. Also look up the DSL and Chair of Governors/Safeguarding Governor just to make certain it doesn't get ignored.

It's even more likely to be a movie in the last week of term, if you've never heard it before - even in short bursts. Minions, for example, is very shouty.

Any sort of shouting/ranting towards children at school is totally unacceptable even if they were misbehaving.
Call or email the school, I would be glad if neighbours of my children’s school took the same care if they heard something that wasn’t “right”.
Regardless of what happened it needs to be investigated by the school management.
Thank you for caring.

Kids get anxiety from actual trauma, and/or prolonged stress. If a child gets anxiety from seeing someone losing their sh*t verbally, then it's because the parents have gone, "little Tim's feelings must be hurt and it's traumatised him, we better take him for an ice cream or a new toy". Instead of saying that some people are dicks and behave badly but you are ok and we have to learn to control our anger so that we don't become dicks too.

I'd call the police to be honest as this is abusive behaviour and let the school explain it to them. It might be the quickest way to get it sorted and the teacher to be reprimanded.

I was recently at a school where the deputy headteacher regularly screams at the kids for minor issues. She comes up really close to their faces and screams at top volume. You can see she takes great pleasure in the pupils discomfort. This is really abusive behaviour and I've reported her here:

https://www.gov.uk/report-teacher-misconduct

This particular teacher is the deputy of a sink school and instead of promoting the wellbeing and education of her pupils, she puts them in detention for minor perceived offences. So they miss loads of learning time and the school sinks even further down the results table. The idiot hasn't connected the dots yet.

I think I went to your school too. Teachers were mental back in the day 😂

Ring the school and ask them what was going on.

Ring the school and ask why it was so noisy. Child protection is everyone's business.

This!!

The little kids have no voice so if you call they'll have one. Takes a community and all that...

I did fitness and some sports coaching for a very long time to kids as well as adults and it is not for the faint hearted...I could imagine someone absolutely unsuited to the role completely losing it to be honest. Just imagine the worse day of bickering for your two kids then imagine that, but 18 other kids, happening multiple times a day. Seasoned teachers know how to deal with it but it's a skill and it can unravel very fast if you're not in control!!

Or they've experienced the shouting and worse on a daily basis at home, come to think of school as a safer place - only to have that illusion shattered by some twat who relies upon fear, the physical impact of sound waves through the ribcage and pain in the extra sensitive ears of a child in order to make themselves feel big and powerful.

Get in touch with the school, however it's slightly odd you know the exact location of classrooms and which year group is in it. I couldn't point that out in my own children's schools.

Your concerns may or may not be valid but you can't know so ring the school and let them know and they are obliged to follow it up. It is your business, you heard it and it concerned you. So act on it and pass it on.

What, so you think teachers should be screaming at small children?

Decent teachers don’t need to raise their voices.

Experiencing shouting at home on a daily basis would fall under the continual stress that I referred to.
An isolated incident of someone shouting at school is not the cause of anxiety. If a child's safe space is school and not home then that is the cause.
Society has bubble wrapped kids into thinking that their feelings are the most important things and they are entitled to everywhere to be a safe space and to be given trigger warnings so they don't get their feelings hurt. Instead of teaching them to deal with the fact that some people are dicks and life isn't fair.
If society has to take up the slack of the failure of parents, then shielding them from ever experiencing negativity away from home, isn't the way. Helping them to cope with life is.

So it's character building for everybody who isn't fortunate enough to have been abused at home already? That's not workable or ethical, as the dickhead doing the yelling isn't going to differentiate between already traumatised kid and the general populace before letting rip - if anything, they're even more likely to target the already vulnerable one because it's so damn effective.

That is not even close to what I said!
All children should learn that there are people that they won't like or get on with in this world and be taught how to cope or act when confronted with said dicks.
It is a parent's job to teach their child resilience and strength.
Children that don't have that support at home, need to rely on other adult members of society to teach them these skills. Not shield them from it.

I haven't said that I think that it is right that people should lose it in front of children but it's the way in which parents/other adults respond to the event that in this day and age is the cause of anxiety.
Rewarding kids with treats because they are upset because someone shouted in front of them/at them, teaches them that their hurt feelings get rewarded and they act on that at every opportunity until they turn into adults that have never grown up and can't cope with the real world and call it anxiety.
Everyone gets hurt feelings but it's how we are taught to act when we have those feelings that matters, not the feelings themselves. Otherwise you end up with a society that thinks that censorship should be put into law to protect people's feelings.

And me. We all, somehow, survived.🙄

I have to say I’m jealous of all these people who managed to keep in close touch with everyone else in society, to the point that they can confidently say they all “trundled on to life with no ill effects.”

yes, sadly teachers are no longer allowed to abuse children….

It was probably sports day or something

It does depend on the historical figure, y'know... My Year 2 class would LOVE to see a theatre show including the rantings and ratings of a monarch or two! Kids can be weird with what they find amusing 😂

Not saying that's what it was what or getting involved in that side, but let's not paint all little people as dainty little cherubs in need of bubble-wrap and ear defenders...