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Henley Royal Regatta, how posh is it & is rowing just a sport for the wealthy?

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Thirtyfiveandcounting · 08/07/2024 15:31

Just that. Friends live near Henley on the Thames & have said loads of American club crews are over for the race?
Is it very posh? I never thought much about rowing in terms of cost investment but I imagine it's fairly costly? Is it as elitist as polo?

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cheapskatemum · 08/07/2024 18:07

pinkspeakers · 08/07/2024 17:29

I don't think it is partiularly elitist as a sport, but at the same time it is not accessible to everybody. As others have said, it mainly depends on living near a suitable river! We live in a village near Henley and learning to row or joining a rowing club are no more expensive than other sports. However, the local state schools don't row and the private schools do, so I guess that makes it more elitist. If you go to a state school you will need to do it after school.

I grew up round there & am the same age as Steve Redgrave. I'm sure he went to Great Marlow school & started rowing whilst a pupil there. It would be very sad if his alma mater no longer taught rowing. Henley Regatta is a great day out. Big shout out for the women rowing there yesterday- you were amazing!

menopausalmare · 08/07/2024 19:16

Thirtyfiveandcounting · 08/07/2024 18:06

Isn't that a shame that the state school don't utilise the river.
My dh canoed for years but that's not quite in the same league as rowing!

Only private schools have the funds to set up their own boat club. My state school offered rowing during PE lessons because we were mini- bussed to our local college boat club with a local council scheme.

CMOTDibbler · 08/07/2024 19:29

My ds has just finished his A levels at state school and rows at a club (not on the Thames at all) which costs £29 a month and he could train 6 days a week if he chose between water, weights and circuits. Not posh at all

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modgepodge · 08/07/2024 19:35

Some state schools do have rowing clubs - sir William Borlase and Windsor boys off the top of my head. But boats are hugely expensive (£30k for an 8 when I rowed 20 years ago!) so obviously state schools will struggle to fund that these days. Eton have their own rowing lake ffs!! Compared to netball, rugby egc it is expensive for equipment (but probably not v expensive for teenagers to join a club).

Sometimesrow · 08/07/2024 19:38

Rowing is trying hard to become less elite. British rowing has multiple schemes to widen participation.

I row at my local club. It costs me just over £30 a month and I just wear normal gym gear. I learnt as an adult on the learn to row course.

I’m currently in the middle level under 40s squad and there’s a couple of people that might be described as posh but apart from that we’re pretty average. Teachers, healthcare, working for the council, builders, police, farmers, office workers etc. Most of lot of us started as adults or students. A couple started as kids.

The demographic of the older members of the club is a lot posher though.

Theres huge numbers of clubs around the country that aren’t on the Thames. All of the Cambridge clubs for a start! All of the Scottish, northern, western and east Anglian club..

Henley doesn’t reflect what rowing looks like for most people. Other regattas are all crocs and dry robes rather than blazers. And the reality of most of the sport is very early mornings and a whole lot of hours of training!

Sometimesrow · 08/07/2024 19:40

Another factor is that rowing is a sport that the British is actually good at and win medals in. This means lots of money comes into rowing from grants etc to try and get those who might not otherwise be able to afford it onto the water. This lowers the cost for lots of people.

PollencaCalling · 08/07/2024 19:43

DD used to row with school, her team went to Henley a few years ago - it’s a grammar so free to attend and rowing is open to any pupil who chooses it as a games option. Any trips are fully funded, the only extra expense is the kit. Certainly not elitist in our case.

BobbyBiscuits · 08/07/2024 19:43

Ive not been to that one, but I did go to a regatta once when I was mates with this uber posh private school girl. Her brother was in the rowing team for some snobby school. I can confirm everyone was looking and acting really posh.
Sloany, deeply uncool. I was mortified by the whole thing. Some of the boys were fit in a kind of rosy cheeked tousled hair way.

JohnnyAndTheDead · 08/07/2024 19:43

It's SO POSH. Quite fun though.

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 19:45

I row and have just spent the full week at Henley as my club qualified for one of the events. Outside of the Olympics and World/Euro champs it is the one of the biggest regattas in the rowing calendar with top crews and athletes from around the world entering. If you participate in the sport it is a ‘must attend’ event as not only is it enormous fun you get to see some of the best athletes in the sport up close.

As for posh, it most certainly can be, I would say it is more middle class then out right ‘posh’. We did a survey down my club the other year and about 90% of members were uni educated and held down professional jobs. Most people’s exposure to the sport is from watching the Oxbridge boat race where they hear plummy voiced Archie Trixham-Windsor-Montague and his chums being interviewed and not unreasonably assume the sport is full of people like that. However if you go down your local rowing club it is a very different vibe with dare I say mostly normal people. The irony being that the most successful club in the country is the former poly Oxford Brookes who run one of the best rowing programmes in the world and would destroy either Oxford or Cambridge in a race.

Running a rowing programme is very expensive, those shiny yellow eights you see coming down the course cost upwards of £40k, well out of reach of you local comp which leaves independent and grammar schools as the main junior entry into the sport which is why you hear lots of ‘posh’ accents in the sport. After that lots of people take up rowing at uni which is where most of the non public school participants in the sport come from. If you join a club though it actually works out very reasonable compared to your typical chain gym. My club costs £50 a month, that gets me use of all the boats and equipment, coaching, use of the gym, insurance and full involvement on the social side of things (club bar, BBQs, parties etc). An 8 week learn to row course would probably cost £200-300 depending where you are.

You also have to remember that rowing is a very old sport and many clubs have been around since the 1860s/70s and they love their traditions like the loud blazers. Those blazers cost about £250 but they are a one off life time purchase. A big no no and faux pas is wearing a club blazer if you are not a member of said club. Both women and men wear blazers, women wear them over summer dresses and men wear them with chinos, shirt and tie.

As for Henley Regatta itself I would estimate that about 40% of the people there know nothing about the sport and are there for the prestige, pomp and ceremony. The riverbank viewing can be divided into several areas:

Leander rowing club by the bridge – members only plus guests – very nice, full of Olympians but you can’t actually see any racing as it is past the finish line.

Stewards Enclosure – occupies the last 500m or so of the course, grandstands, bars and restaurants, very twee, old school – members only plus guests

Remenham club – halfway down the course – this is the ‘rowers’ club, to be a member you have to be a member of one of seven London based rowing clubs and have raced at Henley or to a decent standard– is run by rowers for rowers and is a bit like a student union in terms of cheap booze, partying and lots of tall ripped men and women.

Corporate enclosures – open to anyone with deep pockets who don’t mind paying over the odds for Pimms and a sausage roll.

Pop up bars and clubs – mixed bag of on the day entry fee but otherwise open to anyone.

The river bank – free – there is nothing stopping you laying down a blanket by the river with you own booze and food.

Thirtyfiveandcounting · 08/07/2024 21:09

CMOTDibbler · 08/07/2024 19:29

My ds has just finished his A levels at state school and rows at a club (not on the Thames at all) which costs £29 a month and he could train 6 days a week if he chose between water, weights and circuits. Not posh at all

That's excellent value!

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Rishibyebye · 08/07/2024 21:26

Not posh - I grew up on a farm in Ireland , was a free school meals kid.

took up rowing at Uni I was 4 stone lighter than I am now and was cox for ladies teams & won quite a lot.

then moved to a town in England on the Thames and joined the town rowing club and coxed men’s eights! ( I was 22 , single, 5ft and 7stone on nights out with 8 strapping fellas - best time ever!)

trained hard , 6 days a week and completed at Henley a number of years. Standard at Henley is incredibly high, you have to qualify or be invited and it’s a complete privilege to compete there.

miss those days & miss having an arse that would fit into a boat!

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 21:32

Rishibyebye · 08/07/2024 21:26

Not posh - I grew up on a farm in Ireland , was a free school meals kid.

took up rowing at Uni I was 4 stone lighter than I am now and was cox for ladies teams & won quite a lot.

then moved to a town in England on the Thames and joined the town rowing club and coxed men’s eights! ( I was 22 , single, 5ft and 7stone on nights out with 8 strapping fellas - best time ever!)

trained hard , 6 days a week and completed at Henley a number of years. Standard at Henley is incredibly high, you have to qualify or be invited and it’s a complete privilege to compete there.

miss those days & miss having an arse that would fit into a boat!

Good coxes are rare, you should get involved again.

Rishibyebye · 08/07/2024 21:36

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 21:32

Good coxes are rare, you should get involved again.

I would need to be forcibly wedged into that seat and doubt I would be able to get out again! 😁

i loved rowing though, there is nothing like the feeling and sound of an elite men’s eight in perfect time lifting up & powering along on a crisp still winter morning.

Delatron · 08/07/2024 21:38

cheapskatemum · 08/07/2024 18:07

I grew up round there & am the same age as Steve Redgrave. I'm sure he went to Great Marlow school & started rowing whilst a pupil there. It would be very sad if his alma mater no longer taught rowing. Henley Regatta is a great day out. Big shout out for the women rowing there yesterday- you were amazing!

He did. And now Great Marlow (especially the girls) do very well at lots of the regattas and often win beating all the private and grammar schools. It’s lovely to see.

I actually love seeing more young girls get in to the sport. There’s usually a big drop off in sport for girls around age 14.

My DS rowed for a school local to Henley. We’re not posh. But the training is pretty brutal but good for fitness.

Henley Regatta can be lots of fun. You can go to the bars along the river and there are food trucks. Don’t need to go to the posh enclosures. Lots wearing dresses and trainers this year.

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 21:48

Rishibyebye · 08/07/2024 21:36

I would need to be forcibly wedged into that seat and doubt I would be able to get out again! 😁

i loved rowing though, there is nothing like the feeling and sound of an elite men’s eight in perfect time lifting up & powering along on a crisp still winter morning.

Empachers are quite roomy these days, Filippis less so.

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 21:50

Lots wearing dresses and trainers this year.

More a case of summer dress and wellies this year. Filthy weather.

ichundich · 08/07/2024 21:56

At our local club the annual membership fee is over £300, so more than a gym membership. There is also a race fee for every race you enter and you need to buy kit. Everyone at my club is white, most people are English-born, and I suspect privately educated.

Sometimesrow · 08/07/2024 22:05

ichundich · 08/07/2024 21:56

At our local club the annual membership fee is over £300, so more than a gym membership. There is also a race fee for every race you enter and you need to buy kit. Everyone at my club is white, most people are English-born, and I suspect privately educated.

My rowing club membership is less than my gym, races cost me between £10 and £15 each, my kit was £30 second hand and my team is not all white and not all English born. I’d say the diversity matches the limited diversity of the rural area I live in.

Delatron · 08/07/2024 22:07

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 21:50

Lots wearing dresses and trainers this year.

More a case of summer dress and wellies this year. Filthy weather.

Yeah true, it’s been disappointingly bad..

Reugny · 08/07/2024 22:08

I know adults who row or have done rowing.

It's 50/50 whether they are "posh" or not.

After the 2012 Olympic lots of rowing clubs along the Thames were encouraging adults to take up it up and so the not posh adults took it up then. (I used to do my marathon training by running alone the Thames path.) Though I did discover some of the people I know whose comprehensives were within 2 miles of the Thames could do and did do rowing at school. They aren't all white.

@Delatron you reminded me I met a mum who was pissed off that Redgrave's former school were better at rowing at her son's private school.

TheCadoganArms · 08/07/2024 22:14

ichundich · 08/07/2024 21:56

At our local club the annual membership fee is over £300, so more than a gym membership. There is also a race fee for every race you enter and you need to buy kit. Everyone at my club is white, most people are English-born, and I suspect privately educated.

Interestingly my London club has probably about 20 different nationalities, a large LGB contingent and various ethnicities.

TowerStork · 08/07/2024 22:27

Never considered rowing posh. If you live near lakes or rivers, it's natural for clubs to be there

worklifeunbalanced · 08/07/2024 22:49

Windsor Boys School is a state school and one of the best rowing schools in the country (won again at Henley yesterday!!) But I imagine very well funded by parents vs the state system

Delatron · 09/07/2024 10:41

Reugny · 08/07/2024 22:08

I know adults who row or have done rowing.

It's 50/50 whether they are "posh" or not.

After the 2012 Olympic lots of rowing clubs along the Thames were encouraging adults to take up it up and so the not posh adults took it up then. (I used to do my marathon training by running alone the Thames path.) Though I did discover some of the people I know whose comprehensives were within 2 miles of the Thames could do and did do rowing at school. They aren't all white.

@Delatron you reminded me I met a mum who was pissed off that Redgrave's former school were better at rowing at her son's private school.

Edited

Ha yes I do quite like watching the local state school beat all the private schools!

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