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Place name mispronunciation

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BurntBroccoli · 06/07/2024 10:36

Just Googled a few of these - please add any more!

Hunstanton Norfolk
Wrong: Hun-stan-ton
Right: Hun-ston

Bedworth Warwickshire
Wrong: Bed-worth
Right: Bed-uth

Wales
Wrong: Lan-dud-no
Right: Clan-did-no

Oxford (Magdalen college)
Wrong: Mag-de-lain
Right: Maud-lin

Dumfries and Galloway
Wrong: Kir-cud-bright
Right: Kir-koo-bree

Leominster (Herefordshire)
Wrong: Lee-o-min-ster
Right: Lem-ster

Alnwick(Northumberland)
Wrong: Aln-wik
Right: An-ik

Prudhoe (Northumberland)
Wrong: Prud-hoe
Right: Prud-a

Godmanchester (Cambridgeshire)
Wrong: God-man-ches-ter
Right: Gum-ster

Cholmondeley (Cheshire)
Wrong: Chol-mon-de-lee
Right: Chum-lee

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TroysMammy · 06/07/2024 12:45

Mytholmroyd · 06/07/2024 12:38

I used to have a customer from Llanelli - he was very gracious at my attempts to pronounce it ☺️- I tried very hard but again, it's hard to hear and reproduce it correctly if you didn't grow up making those sounds.

I cringe, especially when I hear it on radio or tv as Lan-eth-lee. I bet non Welsh newsreaders and traffic and travel news presenters pray nothing untoward is happening in Llanelli or any other Llans during their shift.

GogLais · 06/07/2024 12:48

Izzy24 · 06/07/2024 11:43

Anyone mentioned Shrewsbury yet? 😂😂

Shrewsbury is Shrowsbry or Shroosbry, unless you are from there, in which case it is Shoosbry.

spanieleyes · 06/07/2024 12:49

@Mytholmroyd and@TakeOnFlea
I'm from West Yorkshire and I agree, it's not quite a th sound but it's the closest written version I could come up with! It's sort of a th sound but with my tongue stuck somewhere mid mouth rather than a poking out! My dad came from even closer and he pronounced it slightly differently to me, mind you, I had a posh education so my local accent was very different to his!

GogLais · 06/07/2024 12:49

@TroysMammy , how about Thlan-gothlun, Dol-gethley and Mackinleth?

BurntBroccoli · 06/07/2024 12:54

Barnoldswick is pronounced Baa- lik

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IveShaggedSomeMingers · 06/07/2024 12:55

UsernameRedacted · 06/07/2024 12:12

Gateacre
Childwall
Fazakerley
Huyton
Aigburth
Meols

Gattacker, Chilledwall, Fez-akhully, Hi-tun, Egbuth, Mels.

Waves at @UsernameRedacted , DSis, DSIL, DM, DMIL and everyone else in Knowsley.

Mytholmroyd · 06/07/2024 12:56

spanieleyes · 06/07/2024 12:49

@Mytholmroyd and@TakeOnFlea
I'm from West Yorkshire and I agree, it's not quite a th sound but it's the closest written version I could come up with! It's sort of a th sound but with my tongue stuck somewhere mid mouth rather than a poking out! My dad came from even closer and he pronounced it slightly differently to me, mind you, I had a posh education so my local accent was very different to his!

Absolutely! Even within West Yorkshire there are variations in accent.

I was always just happy if people said Keithlee rather than Keely or Keogely or Kee-igly or Kee-aye-goffly or something other mangled version. I've had them all!

I was quite relieved to change my name when I got married so I no longer had to say 'Keighley - K E I G H L E Y' when asked for my name!

Mytholmroyd · 06/07/2024 13:00

TroysMammy · 06/07/2024 12:45

I cringe, especially when I hear it on radio or tv as Lan-eth-lee. I bet non Welsh newsreaders and traffic and travel news presenters pray nothing untoward is happening in Llanelli or any other Llans during their shift.

I bet they do! I find the second LL in Llanelli easier than the first for some reason.

My version would be having to read out all the foreign names of students at graduation. Fortunately they come with phonetic spellings but still, it's very hard to master them all!

TroysMammy · 06/07/2024 13:00

GogLais · 06/07/2024 12:49

@TroysMammy , how about Thlan-gothlun, Dol-gethley and Mackinleth?

I should have said any Welsh place names. Hopefully Swansea won't change to Abertawe as I've heard that mangled too.

TheSquareMile · 06/07/2024 13:01

Shrewsbury's an interesting case.

It's not that it is mispronounced, rather that there is more than one way of saying it.

I always say Sh - rose - bury, but when I spent some time in the area several years ago, I became aware that many people say Sh - ruse - bury.

lcakethereforeIam · 06/07/2024 13:01

Garboldisham, not sure if it's Norfolk or Suffolk. It's right on the border and I've not been there in an age. Is, apparently, pronounced Garblesham 🤔

The Mach loop in Wales is called that because it circles Machynlleth and not because of the speed the aircraft travel. Wouldn't surprise me if that coincidence was an influence though. That and avoiding some of the Welsh pronunciation.

TheSquareMile · 06/07/2024 13:04

There's a village in Cornwall called Mousehole, but I don't think that it's pronounced locally as Mouse - Hole; I think that it may be something like Muzzle, but a poster who is local to the area will know how it's actually pronounced.

WhatThenEh · 06/07/2024 13:08

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NannyR · 06/07/2024 13:10

LakeTiticaca · 06/07/2024 12:15

I'm not confused. I know how to read.Nor am.I deaf. I used to work not far from Keighley and I have never heard anyone say anything but KeiTHley

I'm puzzled too - I'm born and bred West Yorkshire, live very close to Keighley and I'm struggling to pronounce it or recall hearing it pronounced in any way other than Keithley.

spanieleyes · 06/07/2024 13:10

West Yorkshire has some interesting pronunciations, Allerton is Ollertun, Cononley is more like Cun-le, Ovendon is Off-en-dun, Sowerby Bridge is Sor-bi ( almost!) Todmorden is Tod-mu-den. Even Bradford, which looks quite simple to pronounce is more like Brat-fud

Ezekiela · 06/07/2024 13:14

Some visitors from abroad once puzzled me by talking about the nice town of Wet Herby. (Wetherby)

Mytholmroyd · 06/07/2024 13:15

Having moved north recently @spanieleyes I get told off all the time for pronouncing Northallerton as Northollertun!

GogLais · 06/07/2024 13:17

Mytholmroyd · 06/07/2024 12:38

I used to have a customer from Llanelli - he was very gracious at my attempts to pronounce it ☺️- I tried very hard but again, it's hard to hear and reproduce it correctly if you didn't grow up making those sounds.

@Mytholmroyd , I agree, but if you speak German, Ll is similar to 'ch'. It's not at all like Scottish 'ch'.

Also @AllProperTeaIsTheft .

Many sounds in Welsh don't have English equivalents. Rh and Ll notably, but also vowel diphthongs (ei, eu, ae etc).

Rh is like saying R+H at the same time.
Ch is like scottish Ch (e.g, loch)
Dd is like th in 'them'
Th is like th in 'thin'.

I was reading an English book the other day and in the space of two pages one name was spelt 3 different ways, and another name 2 different names.

spanieleyes · 06/07/2024 13:18

@Mytholmroyd
Yeh, that's North Yorkshire, they have a completely different accent to us Westie's!

BobbyBiscuits · 06/07/2024 13:21

Towcester is pronounced Toaster I think!
Wymondham in Windam
Plaistow is Plarsto

I'm trying to think of others...

SwedishEdith · 06/07/2024 13:23

UsernameRedacted · 06/07/2024 12:12

Gateacre
Childwall
Fazakerley
Huyton
Aigburth
Meols

Was about to suggest all of those and wouldn't expect anyone who doesn't know to pronounce them "properly".

I lived in North Wales for about 7 years and Llandudno was mostly pronounced Clandidno, with a slight throaty sound to the CL/Ll bit. If you'd grown up there, locals probably used more authentically Welsh pronunciation. But no one was berated for saying it as best they could.

BurntBroccoli · 06/07/2024 13:26

spanieleyes · 06/07/2024 13:10

West Yorkshire has some interesting pronunciations, Allerton is Ollertun, Cononley is more like Cun-le, Ovendon is Off-en-dun, Sowerby Bridge is Sor-bi ( almost!) Todmorden is Tod-mu-den. Even Bradford, which looks quite simple to pronounce is more like Brat-fud

I've heard Sowerby Bridge pronounced
"Sew-by" Bridge

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spanieleyes · 06/07/2024 13:28

@BurntBroccoli
Yes, Sor-bi isn't quite right, Sew-by isn't either, somewhere in between perhaps!

KnickerlessParsons · 06/07/2024 13:30

Where I am -
Bincknolll, pronounced Bye-null

KnickerlessParsons · 06/07/2024 13:33

Arlanymor · 06/07/2024 11:06

If you want to get technical, ‘ll’ is a voiceless dental fricative with a lateral release… but simply the reason people get annoyed with ‘clan’ is because it’s lazy anglicising. Ll is more of a THL sound than a CL sound. You have to put your tongue to the top of your mouth and behind the upper row of teeth.

Edited

No it's not THL either. And you don't put your tongue behind your teeth.
The back of your tongue touches your back teeth but the front of your tongue doesn't touch any teeth.