My dad died in 2005 . 2 of my children were already born. My middle 2 born after his death . Anyway I kept his ashes on a shelve. If we were looking for something we may say its next to grandad . Said this for years . My middle 2 never had a grandad. And they actually thought grandad was a jar/ urn . They never knew grandads were a living people.
They are older now I was just reflecting. Seems so odd they thought that .