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Interfering SIL living with PIL

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Namechangetounload · 17/06/2024 14:14

I don’t think there is a solution to this one. Just venting after the recent round of bt shttery.

SIL has never left home. Works, no partner, MIL has said (unprompted) they are ND. Extremely bothered about cleanliness, to the point it interferes with normal life.

SIL is extremely judgmental, has to comment harshly on everything and is very controlling. To the point they have essentially stopped PIL having much relationship with DGC. Visiting is painful. DH avoids rather than confronting. We have politely left early on some of the few occasions we visited. If you met DH and i, I hope we would come across as uptogether, presentable and professional. Feel like we are treated like lepers when we visit. For example, DGC asked to change clothes before coming in the house (preteen and getting out the car, not toddlers coming in from a muddy walk). Not allowed to touch anything in the kitchen - if we want a glass of water we would have to ask someone to bring it. Etc. etc. Some of it is childish in the attempt to create a difficult situation. Staying at Easter and some of the decorations put up by SIL had been made by DH’s college girlfriend (she studied art, broke up a long time before we met, no feelings on his past from me). One was a picture with her name written in the corner. Not upset, just weirded out a bit. If we visit we have to put up with the reactive stuff, ridiculous rules and what feels like bt sht stirring.

How do the parents not call them out in this case? As PIL get older it seems like they have enabled a bad situation where it will be difficult for SIL in the future.

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boombang · 17/06/2024 14:16

she clearly has mental health problems, and needs consideration, not judgement

User1974 · 17/06/2024 14:20

She's seriously mentally ill - it sounds like OCD, PIL are actively making her worse going along with it. They are co dependent and deciding to live like this, no one is forcing them. I would be clear with PIL that you are not visiting and the relationships are theirs to lose.

Barefootsally · 17/06/2024 14:21

boombang · 17/06/2024 14:16

she clearly has mental health problems, and needs consideration, not judgement

Having ‘mental health’ problems doesn’t mean you can get away with being a twat

AsYouWantToBe · 17/06/2024 14:22

She sounds very unwell to me (which of course doesn't preclude her also being a dope, but shouldn't be the primary consideration here). How aware of this are her parents? Does she work from home, or at a workplace?

Namechangetounload · 17/06/2024 15:00

Thanks for the replies.

PIL have clearly enabled this for the past two decades and now they are getting very old the future is concerning. SIL is getting more controlling/difficult/interfering as PIL have got very old.

I agree SIL does need consideration. Early on I pushed DH to be more considerate. But SIL has reciprocated by attempting to interfere in our relationship and life choices in an unpleasant way.

SIL does work outside the home. In a very niche job and it sounds like not a smooth path.

I hoped DH would have drawn some boundaries many years ago, rather than simply avoiding the situation. The Easter stay was years ago, there was a lot of other stress and we haven’t stayed over since. DH will not discuss it or admit what a problem this is. My problem is a DH one I guess. DC cannot be made to feel they have problems, because of the way SIL treats them.

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dunkdemunder · 17/06/2024 15:09

Your dc are old enough for you to be able to have an honest and frank conversation with them. Keep it factual and without judgement. Explain that SIL has serious mental health problems. She has some OCD issues that they will have seen examples of.

Explain it is difficult because PIL have chosen to accommodate without boundaries so SIL is unable to manage herself and her issues to the extent that she demands things like clothes changing and dc need to understand this is not anything to do with dc or your family at all.

It is a SIL issue. Not a you and your dc issue.

Unfortunately because SIL's illness has been allowed to develop it's proving not really feasible to expect her to cope without saying things that are inappropriate when you visit.

And let them know she's worse with you lot because you are family. She will rein it in a bit at work because she knows she has to. So it's because you are family that she is at her least guarded

Beautifulbythebay · 17/06/2024 15:12

Can you just visit when sil is at work? Would ils meet at a coffee shop?

Namechangetounload · 17/06/2024 15:25

It Is half a day to drive so quick visits are out unfortunately. SIL accompanies PIL if they visit us.

I have spoken to DC as I really do not want them to be made to feel dirty or that this is their problem. I also stressed it was an ongoing issue before we had DC, so hopefully they don’t end up thinking any of this is their fault.

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LakeTiticaca · 17/06/2024 15:31

Barefootsally · 17/06/2024 14:21

Having ‘mental health’ problems doesn’t mean you can get away with being a twat

Sadly that's not true any more. I've worked with people with "mental health " and were treated like gods by management. Caught them on several occasions smirking while getting all the easy stuff while everyone else has to sort out the shit.
Any complaints about it earns a bollocking from the management. I left in the end , had enough

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