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Gardens with nothing in them?

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BigDahliaFan · 12/06/2024 15:29

Would you not at least put a low maintenance shrub in? I mean not everyone wants full on Monty Don....but something?

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DancelikeFredAstaire · 12/06/2024 18:30

I don't have any boundary fencing so no point me doing anything with my garden.

SharonEllis · 12/06/2024 18:39

sheoaouhra · 12/06/2024 15:37

no, and why does it bother you?

Because its terrible for the evironment.

Autumn1990 · 12/06/2024 18:40

I wanted a lovely cottage garden when I moved but there was quite a rat problem. On top of it now but shrubs would just provide good hiding places. I’ve got patio and grass.

lawnseed · 12/06/2024 18:42

I have a new build house and the garden soil is terrible. Heavy clay with rubble about a couple of foot down. I could have wept when we first dug around.

But, I have fruit trees, a huge budlea, some St John's Wort shrubs, which were free because birds dropped berries which planted themselves. Much of what we've planted is cheap and easy to grow. I don't have anything fancy. I even made a wildlife pond out of a window box which I buried in the soil. I have herbs, a wisteria, lemon balm, a forsythia, honeysuckle, two grapevines, raspberry canes, lavender, a hawthorn and mint, a hydrangea and some flowers in a window box. Anything that looks poorly gets chucked, I don't worry about it or faff on trying to resurrect it as the soil is poor and not everything will thrive. It's trial and error. All the plants I've listed are easy to grow and cheap to buy. Add Grow More fertiliser every so often and water in dry weather.

Patches of our shaded grass died so we put down stone chippings and large rocks as ornaments and interest.

To those who don't have much time. Plant a miniature fruit tree and a budlea, for the insects. If you don't like cutting grass, put some flagstones and chippings down to reduce the lawn burden. Just have a smaller patch of grass. Everything can be made easier and less work.

Blackcats7 · 12/06/2024 18:47

I’ll be honest and say I do judge people with entirely plastic/ concrete gardens. As the OP says a few shrubs take the most minimal effort.
It is horrible for nature that potential green spaces are removed and as previously said the effect on drainage with all the concrete is awful.
I have always gardened ever since I first had one. When I was busy working my garden was mostly just grass and shrubs but when I had to take early retirement I added other plants. Now I am quite severely disabled I have help to mow but still do what else I can manage whilst sat on my rollator. Can only do a tiny bit at a time but I love looking out from my bed (on worst days) at my beautiful garden and all the birds it attracts so the effort is well worthwhile.

GameOfJones · 12/06/2024 19:13

Blackcats7 · 12/06/2024 18:47

I’ll be honest and say I do judge people with entirely plastic/ concrete gardens. As the OP says a few shrubs take the most minimal effort.
It is horrible for nature that potential green spaces are removed and as previously said the effect on drainage with all the concrete is awful.
I have always gardened ever since I first had one. When I was busy working my garden was mostly just grass and shrubs but when I had to take early retirement I added other plants. Now I am quite severely disabled I have help to mow but still do what else I can manage whilst sat on my rollator. Can only do a tiny bit at a time but I love looking out from my bed (on worst days) at my beautiful garden and all the birds it attracts so the effort is well worthwhile.

Yes, honestly I do judge too and unashamedly. It is an environmental disaster and must be terrible for people's mental health to sit in such a bleak space. I'm in my 30s and have gardened since I wad a child, DDs also love growing sunflowers, watering tomatoes etc.

Some lawn and/or patio and a few borders with extremely low maintenance shrubs in takes the bare minimum of effort. There are multiple plants in my garden I do absolutely nothing to or at most spend 5 minutes once a year trimming them back. Ceanothus, viburnum, verbena, hardy geraniums, oregano, thyme, lavender, hydrangeas, rosemary etc. Even rhubarb can just be ignored but gives you something to eat.

GentlemanJohnny · 12/06/2024 19:13

No. Ours is entirely down to grass which I pay a bloke to mow. I detest gardening with a passion.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/06/2024 19:21

I hate those soulless gardens. Wooden high fence, grey paving, lawn with no plants. Like being in an outdoor retail park.

l started being interested in gardening in my first house 36 years ago.

During that time l was a single parent, worked full time but still found time.

SisterAgatha · 12/06/2024 19:22

My garden is fair enough. I trim the shrubs and rip up the bind weed every few months, clear the path / sweep the mats / repaint the furniture. I made a big effort one year and it was lovely for 3 months but quite expensive and labour intensive really.

When I have free time (very little) I go to the gym or cycle around the lakes instead of gardening. Happier with that. Different people have different priorities I suppose.

SisterAgatha · 12/06/2024 19:23

Also part of mine is full of the plastic play house and the kids toy cars / kitchen. So I don’t suppose it will ever meet the standard you all want

Forridge · 12/06/2024 19:26

LiterallyOnFire · 12/06/2024 15:50

I love how many posters are absolutely determined that gardening is an exclusively 60+ activity. Grin

It's definitely not and I have no idea while people love to rain on others parade by making it seem unpopular (nothing against old people).

I'm 24. I have dozens of indoor and outdoor plants. Regularly give cuttings as gifts to friends, family, colleagues, and anyone I fancy being kind to.

Houseplants are more popular with people my age just because of space restrictions.

Reugny · 12/06/2024 19:31

Choccyp1g · 12/06/2024 15:53

I planted a lot of dahlias. Thanks to the slugs I now have a lot of empty space.

Water with Garlic infusion.

They dislike it.

TeaGinandFags · 12/06/2024 19:33

My garden is a mish mash of weeds.

Not through intent but everything I plant - and I've spent thousands - gets eaten bybthe wildlife. More specifically by squirrels. I planted an edible hedge which they got through like a dose of salts; I invested in a multitude of bulbs which didnt last long enough to break surface and the worst was my hazel nut trees. The little sods added insult to injury by breaking into my shed and shelling them under a shelving unit.

Atm I've thrown in the towel and have just mowed aroubd the house. I have all sorts of butterflies and the pigeons have declared a truce, although the latter stiil give me side eye.

WearyAuldWumman · 12/06/2024 19:39

It depends on what you can manage, I guess.

I used to have (I think) a lovely garden. Thanks to caring responsibilities, illness and other issues, it's now a mess. I'm thinking the neighbours might prefer an empty space.

I'm trying to do a little at a time, but the back and my knees really don't want to cooperate. (I had shoulder issues which have improved, thanks to a couple of operations so have been trying again.)

I can't afford the prices that gardeners are asking - some want more for an hour's work than I make in a day on supply teaching, and I'll not be able to cope with even occasional supply work for much longer.

I'm trying to do my best with ground cover and mulch, but...

Reugny · 12/06/2024 19:41

LifeofBrienne · 12/06/2024 16:43

For anyone who might want to have a bit more interest in their garden but lacks time / money / knowing where to start, do you have a gardening friend who could help? If someone asked me to pick out two easy shrubs, a couple of perennials and some spring bulbs I’d see that as fun and would love to help. Alternatively you could pick some of the cheapest plants in the supermarket, stick them in and see what survives!

Slugs eat Spring bulbs.

However having the same shrubs and perennials that others have in their gardens in your neighbourhood is a good idea.

If you know someone with plants and complement them they may help you get them established.

RainbowColouredRainbows · 12/06/2024 19:45

I hate gardening more than I hate ironing. The only bit of gardening I did was getting rid of the rose bushes when I moved in. Grass is a much tidier and pleasant view. Flowers make the place look chaotic.

Reugny · 12/06/2024 19:46

Forridge · 12/06/2024 19:26

It's definitely not and I have no idea while people love to rain on others parade by making it seem unpopular (nothing against old people).

I'm 24. I have dozens of indoor and outdoor plants. Regularly give cuttings as gifts to friends, family, colleagues, and anyone I fancy being kind to.

Houseplants are more popular with people my age just because of space restrictions.

I have been doing house plant gardening since I was a teenager.

I did have to give all the plants I managed to keep alive away after university as I went to work abroad. However I quickly acquired others.

Now I garden both outside and inside with my DD who decided at 2 she like gardening. This was helped by her CM and also her nursery. She's now the one who decides what colour plants go in the garden.

RaininSummer · 12/06/2024 19:52

I think there should a law that every house or flat, with outside space, has to have at least one pot of lavender or similar for pollinators to visit.

JaninaDuszejko · 12/06/2024 19:53

When we bought our last house the small back garden was completely paved over. We got a garden designer in and asked for it to be filled it with food plants. It was gorgeous, we had a espalier fruit trees, lots of berry bushes and herbs. My Dad planted the front garden with shrubs. Google have updated the satellite images of our town and the new owners have ripped all the plants out front and back and it's completely paved again except a small square of fake plastic grass. I find it really hard to understand why you would rip out an established garden and replace it with nothing, all the neighbours have lovely gardens so it really stands out and not in a good way.

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 12/06/2024 19:55

Whenever I see those soulless gardens with just paving and grass I think their owners must be soulless people too( this of course excludes people with disabilities who can't do any gardening, although Gardeners World has as pp mentioned Sue Kent and previously had a male presenter who used a wheelchair, both have wonderful gardens). I assume they don't appreciate natural beauty or art or anything visually creative and that there's something lacking in them. Do they ever visit gardens and appreciate them?

I have gardened since my twenties when I bought my first house, I've gardened while working and having 2 small children, early widowhood, being a single parent. I didn't know much when I started but there are hundreds if not thousands of books out there aimed at novice gardeners, that's how I learned.

If your soil is terrible you can still make a lovely garden, the past 30 years I've had heavy clay and a north facing back garden but I've still made a beautiful garden. I think these days many people have lost the art of patience and of delayed gratification, they want everything perfect now and don't want to wait for plants to grow and mature.

AuraBora · 12/06/2024 20:13

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 12/06/2024 19:55

Whenever I see those soulless gardens with just paving and grass I think their owners must be soulless people too( this of course excludes people with disabilities who can't do any gardening, although Gardeners World has as pp mentioned Sue Kent and previously had a male presenter who used a wheelchair, both have wonderful gardens). I assume they don't appreciate natural beauty or art or anything visually creative and that there's something lacking in them. Do they ever visit gardens and appreciate them?

I have gardened since my twenties when I bought my first house, I've gardened while working and having 2 small children, early widowhood, being a single parent. I didn't know much when I started but there are hundreds if not thousands of books out there aimed at novice gardeners, that's how I learned.

If your soil is terrible you can still make a lovely garden, the past 30 years I've had heavy clay and a north facing back garden but I've still made a beautiful garden. I think these days many people have lost the art of patience and of delayed gratification, they want everything perfect now and don't want to wait for plants to grow and mature.

I totally agree!

I have a pretty wild garden - I do mow it but there are so many shrubs/trees/hedge that its a never ending job, and I get frustrated by the neighbour who refuses to trim his very big trees (I like them essentially but they block out a lot of light and are overbearing in a narrow long garden). I cannot keep up with the endless amount to do (we have 2 young children and somehow it all seems so time-consuming).
BUT I love the fact we have so much wildlife- frogs, sloworms, bees, beetles, birds, everything. I love that my 5 year old goes and is full of delight finding strawberries in the patch at the bottom..or tending to her little fairy garden next to the compost bin.
It makes up for the frustration!

I do feel sometimes like people's soulless, bland (and often concreted or AstroTurfed) 'gardens' are quite symptomatic of a complete disconnect with nature and wildlife that seems so rife in the UK.
Also sometimes a case of 'keeping up with the Jones's' - with an emphasis on tidiness, super expensive outdoor seating, etc. Etc.
If anyone thinks that's judgemental, so be it, it's my opinion.

Lifeinlists · 12/06/2024 20:20

RainbowColouredRainbows · 12/06/2024 19:45

I hate gardening more than I hate ironing. The only bit of gardening I did was getting rid of the rose bushes when I moved in. Grass is a much tidier and pleasant view. Flowers make the place look chaotic.

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Reugny · 12/06/2024 20:32

@AuraBora it's the hedge that's the problem. They need regular cutting.

Shrubs need pruning (hacking back) once a year.

Most trees should be pruned once a year in winter but most people put it off.

darksigns · 12/06/2024 21:01

When I was a kid our retired next door neighbours had the most beautiful front garden. Small trees and shrubs and a tiny lawn, with colour from flowers and leaves all year round. Very well designed and extremely low maintenance.
When they passed away the house was sold and the first thing the new owner did was rip it all out and pour concrete.

Blackcats7 · 12/06/2024 21:01

JaninaDuszejko · 12/06/2024 19:53

When we bought our last house the small back garden was completely paved over. We got a garden designer in and asked for it to be filled it with food plants. It was gorgeous, we had a espalier fruit trees, lots of berry bushes and herbs. My Dad planted the front garden with shrubs. Google have updated the satellite images of our town and the new owners have ripped all the plants out front and back and it's completely paved again except a small square of fake plastic grass. I find it really hard to understand why you would rip out an established garden and replace it with nothing, all the neighbours have lovely gardens so it really stands out and not in a good way.

I had a wonderful very established wisteria which I had planted and trained for decades in my front garden at my old house pre divorce. It was so spectacular that passers by would stop and take photos and a few times even posted copies for me through the letterbox. Current owners (not ones I sold to) have ripped it out in favour of a desultory row of corporation park style bedding and plastic windmills.
Mind blowing.