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‘Goat glerheads’. What does this mean????

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NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 09/06/2024 22:56

Can anyone make sense of this? I’m baffled and no help from Google.

It’s in a 1942 book about music in England. This is the line:

‘However, we may perhaps hardly expect them to take to Elgar or Vaughan Williams unless we more extensively cultivate Bruckner or Roussel or Casella, so we remain goat glerheads.’

Eh what??? WHAT do we remain?

Is it a typo? Is it a 1940s common or garden expression? Did everyone have a goat, and at least one glerhead, and was this a bad thing?

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Sunbird24 · 09/06/2024 22:58

At loggerheads?

Looks like a typo to me!

AndiOliversGlasses · 09/06/2024 23:01

My guess is a typo/printing error and perhaps it was meant to be simply “goatherds”- still not sure what it would mean but maybe a bit like suggesting people are sheep/goats and need to be shown the way by their herders?

what is the wider context- who is speaking and what is the purpose of the book?

exexpat · 09/06/2024 23:05

Is it a kindle book/e-book? They very commonly introduce errors when old books are scanned to make digital versions, so I think the guess of 'at loggerheads' is a good one.

NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 09/06/2024 23:07

Oh ‘at loggerheads’ is an excellent unmangling and would make sense!

The wider context is that the author Eric Blom is peeved that people Abroad believe ‘there is no such phenomenon as a British composer’.

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niadainud · 09/06/2024 23:13

"At loggerheads" is an exact anagram. If that helps at all...

V sharp of @Sunbird24 to spot that.

NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 09/06/2024 23:16

It’s a printed paperback, 1947 revised edition. Not revised enough my friend! That’s one hell of a misprint.

I like the idea of goatherds shepherding recalcitrant continentals toward Elgar and Vaughan Williams.

But ‘for ever remaining at loggerheads’ makes sense. He also struggles to come to terms with opera having developed in Italy rather than England.

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NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 09/06/2024 23:19

If only, if ONLY we had more extensively cultivated Bruckner, Roussel and Casella! Then all these loggerheads could have been avoided! World peace and that.

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DoreenonTill8 · 09/06/2024 23:21

niadainud · 09/06/2024 23:13

"At loggerheads" is an exact anagram. If that helps at all...

V sharp of @Sunbird24 to spot that.

Absolutely good skills @Sunbird24 and goat glerherds would be an amazing name change! 😆

NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 09/06/2024 23:25

Well goat glerheads née @DoreenonTill8 let me make you a present of it!

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