What deadly women or female killer case shook you to your core?

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I'm a fan of true crime and recall one particular episode I watched- I think it was Kate Webster and Leonarda Cianculli.

I steer well away from watching any episodes pertaining to children as I cannot cope but aside from that, cases from Victorian period or early 20th century creep me out.

What are yours?

I hadn’t heard about this. Not ideal for crime stats!

Such an awful case. Incredible that so many people were involved and all simply went along with it.

Exactly, I'm not aware of any other case where so many relatively normal children became so easily involved in physical torture with seemingly no hesitation or qualms.

Sarah Lloyd Jones killing her disabled daughter, Kaylea Titford. It was six months of criminal neglect, a very slow and painful death.
The dad, Alun Titford, went to prison as well for watching it and doing nothing.

Beverley Allitt - absolutely horrific and heartbreaking for the families.

The dad got a higher sentence.

There are a few but ones that spring to mind are the Canadian Karla Homolka who drugged, raped and killed her own little sister as well as assisted her husband Paul Bernardo in kidnapping and raping young girls.

This for me too. I have family who live not too far from where this happened. And to think she's now married with children of her own.

Yes, because she plead guilty and he plead not guilty. A guilty plea gets you an automatic discount off your sentence.

Sara was Kaylea’s primary carer. Her Dad tried to say it was nothing to do with him and he hadn’t noticed Sara not caring for Kaylea properly.

I see. All I really remember is her screaming and her dad texting her to stop.

That was her last night alive. The case is really heartbreaking. It was a deliberate campaign of neglect for six months where her mum not only didn’t care for Kaylea (resulting in her death from infection), she also lied to the school and refused help to cover it up. Her mum,Sara, is a trained healthcare professional in caring for disabled people so she absolutely knew that her neglect would cause Kaylea to die and she absolutely knew her daughter was suffering and in pain.

As usual with these cases, I find it incomprehensible. I can certainly understand how a parent could be at the end of their tether but I'm sure the family were offered support and of course her dad was in the house. It's completely inhumane.

I hadn’t heard about this. Not ideal for crime stats!

No. Thankfully he's in a male prison though.

Came here to mention her too. She just went up to, and stabbed random people for a thrill. A very sick woman.

The PP about finding murder cases "entertaining" is silly to me. We need people to have an interest in these things so they work in that field (catching criminals, not becoming one!). I met a female cop who got into policing after reading about Dennehy.

The Moors murders, so Myra Hindley.

It chilled me as a child.

And even today, about 60 years on, and especially around Christmas, I cannot comprehend how a woman can stand by as her partner tortures and kills a little girl whilst playing the carol "Little Drummer Boy"

Every single woman that lets a shit partner abuse and murder their children . I mean what kind of people are these to stand by and let it happen .

Humans are interested in other humans and what they do or dont do which is outside the norm of social behaviour and cultural behaviour

Its not normal to kill someone is it?

Its not necessarily that normal to think about or want to kill someone although fleeting times someone may think about it in a particular context

So there is fascination and curiosity about people like that, why, when, how, how to prevent, what does it mean.

Its normal and natural to have an emotion about that becuase it is extreme behaviour, in any culture.

A relatives friend used to teach Mary Bell. That was a horrible case.

Hindley and West took to murder like ducks to water. Each was as bad as her after.

Tracie Andrews. A chilling example of a lying murderer.

She was correct about that photo. It remains seared in the nations consciousness and meant that she would never be paroled in her lifetime. Given the nature of her crimes, perhaps lifelong imprisonment was the correct punishment. But unlike Rose West, she never sought to offend on her own account. She was in an almost certainly coercive relationship with a psychopathic man who drove both their offending.

Im a bit sick of hearing that women must be in a coercive relationship if they offend with a man.

Was reading about the LIkens case last night that someone referred to, horrendous, never heard anything like it. And that the murderers were released in due course and went on and had lives (although many died young it seems)

I cant remember her name but can see her fac,e there was a victorian baby killer, took in babies for money to look after them but just killed them instead. I often think about that one

Like @RancidOldHag I was a child when the Moors murder trial happened, until then most people didn't think women became serial killers, especially of DC, and the anger women felt towards Myra Hindley was enormous. Hindley used the fact DC would trust a woman to make the victims go with them and women hated for that

Casey Anthony. Even though she was found not guilty of murdering her little girl, I strongly doubt her innocence and her behaviour was not that of a loving Mother. My heart breaks for Caylee.

I find it odd that someone can be a "fan" of true crime. People (including children) being brutally tortured, raped and murdered is something you're a fan of??
I do understand having an interest in the darker side of human nature but to say you're a fan, just doesn't sit right with me...