claiming pip

[jill85xxx]

hi new here does anyone pip and have a review?posted my forms an im terrifed.i have a letter of my psycologist saying im currently in therapy an shes known me since 2019 an ive had 20 sessions with her in 2021sn ive just started more therapy with her.ive wrote on the forms struggles in great detail ive a letter with my disgnosis on of EUPD sent my medication letter

OP what did you do at your original claim? You need to show things are still the same.

i sent a letter to show im currently in therapy and one a old one saying ive been in trouble with the police becauseof my MH an a couple of others i can't even remember wot they said now i should of photo copied but i didnt and i put my psychstrist name an and the MH place of address xx

oh and my diagnosis an my medication im on a high dose of antipsycotics a few different ones xx

Me too, I find they take those kinds of meds seriously.

Oh, another thing, they have probably put this thing on your file about needing support with the claims process due to severe mental health, that will probably be helpful too, as they will see that it is more difficult for you x

Absolutely agree. I am an advisor and would never just write no change or advise anyone to write that. I am on a lot of forums and rarely see anyone advise that.

But if you are capable of filling in the form and do t isn’t that a little fraudulent.
I applied for my DH who had had a stroke with significant cognitive damage. Because he can operate a microwave, answer questions and raised his hands above his head he scored zero. The fact he has to be prompted to eat and drink, has restricted diet due to poor swallowing reflex and cannot walk more than 50m just didn’t register.
I understand that mental health is a disability but it is very frustrating when PIP claimants come onto these threads with advice on how to get round the system.

I don't think it sounds like OP is in a. place to be doing that for herself, if she had someone to help then perhaps. But make sure it is clear she has had help with it.

I have been advised to do this elsewhere by advisors. They need to show a change in circumstances to take away the award.

Well, I have qualified for high rate PIP since it came out in 2014, and been through 2 reviews so far. So I do know what I am talking about. Leaving the thread now though.

Hope it goes well OP. You should be fine

It sounds like the forms were not filled in correctly for your husband. Do you keep a diary etc of how much support is required . Promoting is a key descriptor - eg will make meal but needs prompting and support etc

Oh, one more thing OP, If you end up not getting it send on for some reason they have this thing for severe mental health where they still go ahead with it anyway. Just to reassure you. Obviously best to get it back though.

sorry late reply thats what i was thinking surely they would take bein on those meds more serious i do hope so xx

i went the citizens advice they helped with some of it the rest i done myself

I think people are forgetting the DWP already know the descriptors the OP qualifies for as this is a review not a first claim. So it is for them to show she doesn't qualify for them anymore not the other way around as much

That is how it was described to me anyway.

OP do you have the letter they sent to you saying which ones you scored for last time as that might be helpful for you

I don't see that it is fraudulent to say that about the form. People always say things like take someone with you to an appt, how is this any different. It could have taken you ages and with help but they will still make assumptions. They are sneaky as anything. (DWP)

no i didnt keep it im terrifed bcz last time i had more evidence an this time i havnt but iam stil under MH team an i see my therpist once a week x

Maybe when you get it after this review, keep a copy for the next one. It can be helpful. Don't worry though they should have details from your last assessment to see x

That's actually not true. Mental health in particular, is one of those concoctions that can change vastly and if you give no evidence of it being the same you can easily lose the award. Of course it should bc the case that they have to show you don't qualify, but without up to date evidence to say you do, how can they possibly know?

I know you are adamant you are correct and your experience is the only one but it takes 10 minutes on google to see scores of people stripped of their PIP at review, and half of them have given evidence.

Also, the suggestion that people cannot be competent at form filling and understanding themselves and their struggles because they have poor mental health is disgraceful.

There is a new way of doing reviews now.

Not sure if it's for every claim or just those with a permanent disability.

But we out no change for most things for ds. A few things he's struggling more with but he has a degenerative physical condition so they didn't query that really.

If you get the letter that solely asks about changes and there haven't been any then state no change.

I just had mine reviewed after waiting over a year.
I received the text saying my case was being passed to a team to carry out a assessment.
A month later I received a letter saying PIP award was continued based on paper assessment.
As all the information and evidence was included in the form there was no need for a telephone assessment.

Actually Wirth severe mental health there is also often a lack of insight which could make filling in the form especially difficult, I certainly found that. Also with antipsychotics they can affect your cognition. It's not that simple.

The report from the assessor was so different from the interview. I am an HCP and found the interview was full of leading questions. My pre stroke DH would have challenged the questions, but then my pre stroke husband didn’t need PIP.
The form was filled in as advised, not in relationship to the stroke but how the stroke impacted every day life. The OP is talking about her treatment and medication which in itself has no bearing on the PIP but the side effects may cause difficulties.
I sort out all DH’s meds, he struggles with any sort of planning but he is capable of taking them himself. If I didn’t organise prescriptions, drug reviews and check ups he wouldn’t have any meds to take. In the same way that he can heat up a meal have prepared but is not always aware of the time and doesn’t always respond to hunger cues.
He would live of crisps without someone to plan and prepare food. He wouldn’t be able to plan and execute a simple meal.
We went through all of this on the application and in the interview but the comment was “he can heat up food in the microwave” zero points.

The stroke associate are lobbying for greater education of assessors because not every stroke victim has classic droopy face and weakness. I had a patient who functioned perfectly normal but could not speak. She could say yes and made a tweeting noise for no.
Others like my Dfil was bedbound, had no swallow reflex and could not communicate.
Although my DH appears normal his cognitive damage create a lot of day to day problems for him. I do feel that the assessors lace far too much emphasis on physical appearance.
Mental health, I think, because it is invisible, they have much better guidelines.

That is shocking and I hope that you appealed.