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"female" models

38 replies

Shittyproblem · 27/05/2024 19:48

I was looking at a skirt online recently, a household name, & was taken aback by the model.

No boobs, no waist, big feet, & a very dark shadow on the top lip.

I get fed up with their questionnaires about what sex/gender I "identify" with, but I really think this is going too far.

OP posts:
GrumpyPanda · 27/05/2024 21:41

songaboutjam · 27/05/2024 19:58

If someone with a male physique models a skirt or dress, said skirt or dress will probably not fit well on a woman because our anatomy and proportions (especially vital things like hip width) are different. Surely you'd want to cater to your primary consumer base? It seems like an odd business decision.

So what else is new? Not like models haven't been chosen since time immemorial for being built as closely as possible like adolescent men. The fact that the fashion business has now graduated to actual men... meh.

Canadan · 27/05/2024 21:57

To me, who wears which clothes falls firmly under sex stereotypes rather than sex. If men want to model and wear skirts, good luck to them.

It might make me think the clothes won’t fit me but tbh no more than a 6 foot skinny woman modelling. I’d like to see a whole range of models used, and in fairness many brands now do this.

Catsmere · 28/05/2024 09:28

CuttingMeOpenthenHealingMeFine · 27/05/2024 20:00

I just roll my eyes and go shop somewhere else. It absolutely is to do with gender ideology and I don’t want it shoved down my throat every two seconds.

Same. I've stopped using brands that promote this.

SundayTulips · 28/05/2024 09:38

If anything, I’d say that removing stereotypes of who should wear what is helpful in that gender shouldn’t be boiled down to what you look like and how you are allowed to dress. I think in some ways this oversimplification causes many of the issues we see today.

You can’t know the sex of the person in the image. Facial hair could be caused by many factors in someone born a girl (eg PCOS).

Catsmere · 28/05/2024 09:44

GrumpyPanda · 27/05/2024 21:41

So what else is new? Not like models haven't been chosen since time immemorial for being built as closely as possible like adolescent men. The fact that the fashion business has now graduated to actual men... meh.

It's the pretence that men are women (and implicitly better women) that puts me off. It's next-level misogyny, as if the sort the fashion industry is steeped in wasn't enough.

BettyUnderswoob · 28/05/2024 10:47

Can you show us the pic or name the company, OP?

CocoapuffPuff · 28/05/2024 11:48

SundayTulips · 28/05/2024 09:38

If anything, I’d say that removing stereotypes of who should wear what is helpful in that gender shouldn’t be boiled down to what you look like and how you are allowed to dress. I think in some ways this oversimplification causes many of the issues we see today.

You can’t know the sex of the person in the image. Facial hair could be caused by many factors in someone born a girl (eg PCOS).

Yes, men can wear skirts.

Skirts created to fit the male body, fine. Skirts being marketed at women by a male model? How about by a 2 year old? How about we advertise cars with a 12 year old joyrider in the driving seat? Guinness and gin being enjoyed by kids at a play centre. No? Why not?

As for the can't tell the sex crap....I'm willing to bet cold hard cash that you can clock the sex of someone walking behind you at midnight when you're alone, at about 100m.

BettyUnderswoob · 28/05/2024 11:57

Canadan · 27/05/2024 21:57

To me, who wears which clothes falls firmly under sex stereotypes rather than sex. If men want to model and wear skirts, good luck to them.

It might make me think the clothes won’t fit me but tbh no more than a 6 foot skinny woman modelling. I’d like to see a whole range of models used, and in fairness many brands now do this.

People can wear whatever they like and don’t need to follow fashion or convention. That’s up to them.
However, a man being used to model a garment tailored for, and aimed and marketed at women, in a retailer’s women’s section, then that's woke signalling at best, erasure of women in their space at worst.

Marghogeth · 28/05/2024 12:01

If some bikini bottoms can fit a man's junk in them, then they're going to be too baggy for a woman. Biology matters.

endofthelinefinally · 28/05/2024 12:07

SundayTulips · 28/05/2024 09:38

If anything, I’d say that removing stereotypes of who should wear what is helpful in that gender shouldn’t be boiled down to what you look like and how you are allowed to dress. I think in some ways this oversimplification causes many of the issues we see today.

You can’t know the sex of the person in the image. Facial hair could be caused by many factors in someone born a girl (eg PCOS).

Women can recognise a male pretty instantaneously, even at a distance. It is an evolutionary survival mechanism.

AliceKyteler · 28/05/2024 18:35

kitsuneghost · 27/05/2024 20:39

No I meant cis woman to differentiate from trans woman. In context this is the correct term.

We don't need that "differentiate"
I am a woman.

OfficeOrganisationalCompartment · 28/05/2024 18:43

So what else is new? Not like models haven't been chosen since time immemorial for being built as closely as possible like adolescent men. The fact that the fashion business has now graduated to actual men... meh.

The modern feminist: shaming women's bodies to make some point about men or something.

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 28/05/2024 18:53

Any thoughts on the thread you have started, @Shittyproblem? Hmm

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