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Why did I have this vaginal examination in the 1980s?

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itstheendoftheworldasweknowitnow · 23/05/2024 20:41

When I was about 8 I can remember being taken to the doctors for a vaginal examination. I can remember there being a female chaperone there with the Dr. I remember being very uncomfortable and not really understanding why this was happening. My mum (now deceased) said it was because I was a bed wetter. I never got the chance to ask her about it when I was an adult.
Did anyone else have this? Was it normal in the 80s?

OP posts:
Nomorecoconutboosts · 23/05/2024 20:43

If you wanted a definite answer you could request your GP notes to see what is documented?
all the best - sounds like this has perhaps been worrying you?

CJ0374 · 23/05/2024 20:45

@Nomorecoconutboosts I doubt the GP practice would still have notes from 40yrs ago! Worth a try though.

OP-was your mum with you during the examination? Sounds like they were checking for an anatomical abnormality that might have been causing the bed wetting? Had you injured yourself there? None of us would know though.

brainexplorer · 23/05/2024 20:46

Genital exams and even rectal palpation can form part of the diagnostic process for enuresis (nighttime incontinence). If you were worried that it was somehow abnormal I can reassure you that it wasn't/isn't.

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itstheendoftheworldasweknowitnow · 23/05/2024 20:49

It just came back to me as a weird memory. I know there was some social services involvement with my family at the time but I don’t have a timeline or anything. I don’t even really know why SS were involved other than my Dad punched my brother. I don’t know.

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Nomorecoconutboosts · 23/05/2024 21:01

@CJ0374 - according to the BMA website GP records should be kept complete until 10 years after a person dies. Even if someone changes GP technically the record should move as well. (It used to go to a central location like a middle man when being moved from one surgery to another)
other records such as hospital records aren’t kept for so long but of course the GP would usually have clinical letters from secondary care services.
anyway this may or may not help the OP and in practice sometimes records are not complete as you rightly say

HappiestSleeping · 23/05/2024 21:03

Nomorecoconutboosts · 23/05/2024 21:01

@CJ0374 - according to the BMA website GP records should be kept complete until 10 years after a person dies. Even if someone changes GP technically the record should move as well. (It used to go to a central location like a middle man when being moved from one surgery to another)
other records such as hospital records aren’t kept for so long but of course the GP would usually have clinical letters from secondary care services.
anyway this may or may not help the OP and in practice sometimes records are not complete as you rightly say

They should, but they often aren't. My original GP lost all my records. 30 years of history just vanished.

BarHumbugs · 23/05/2024 21:05

CJ0374 · 23/05/2024 20:45

@Nomorecoconutboosts I doubt the GP practice would still have notes from 40yrs ago! Worth a try though.

OP-was your mum with you during the examination? Sounds like they were checking for an anatomical abnormality that might have been causing the bed wetting? Had you injured yourself there? None of us would know though.

I requested a copy of my notes and they go back to my birth, over 40 years ago.

Shiningout · 23/05/2024 21:07

I've had my gp Records and they go back 32 years from When I was born so if you are worried request your medical records

CJ0374 · 23/05/2024 21:19

@Nomorecoconutboosts and others, I had no idea GP's 'should' keep records for so long! You learn something new everyday.

NewLifter · 23/05/2024 21:52

Op I had investigations for the same, I definitely only had an USS which identified a structural abnormality with my kidneys and ureters. That was in the mid 80s. A VExon a young child would be extremely uncomfortable and I struggle to understand the purpose to be honest.

BeckyLotter · 23/05/2024 23:38

Were you chubby when you were little? My daughter was chubby and would suffer from vaginitis, which needed examination. Thankfully grew out of it and her chubbiness went away as she got older.

Aussieland · 23/05/2024 23:50

an external exam might not be unusual looking for abnormalities or vulvovaginitis. An internal exam would be very unusual (these days anyway) for anyone not sexually active and over 16-18

KidsDr · 23/05/2024 23:58

At least since I began working in paediatrics around 2015, vaginal examination (any kind of internal examination) is not conducted in prepubescent children except in exceptional circumstances and usually under GA. It's recognised that VE may be traumatising for children and often adds very little to the clinical picture.

However it is sometimes necessary to examine vulva (always with a chaperone, usually just looking not touching). Some relatively common reasons I can think of to look (and I mean literally look) would be trauma (think falling from a bike), unusual discharge, to assess pubertal development, nocturnal waking/crying which could be caused by threadworm, fused labia / vulvovaginitis (both v common in pre pubertal girls). And safeguarding where it is necessary to see every part of the body surface (but not a VE unless a sexual assault of some kind was suspected and that is highly specialised and even then may not occur if it would further traumatise etc).

However, 40 years ago times were possibly very different. The reason might have been for one of the above where we would now view it as inappropriate or unhelpful to perform a VE but could have been seen as standard at the time?

Obviously this was an unpleasant / upsetting experience for you as a child being powerless and not even having a clue why it was happening. It doesn't surprise me that it still plays on your mind. We avoid VE in children for good reason. I would see if there are any notes still available that might clarify what exactly was going on medically.

Only other thing I can think of is urinary catheter insertion which might feel somewhat internal or similar to a VE. However, this would either be for an investigation usually in a hospital setting (putting dyes up in the bladder etc some of which could be relevant to abnormal bed wetting), or in an extreme sort of life-and-death type situation. I can't think of a context for urinary catheter insertion at a GP in a well 8 year old.

Upallnight2 · 24/05/2024 00:00

CJ0374 · 23/05/2024 20:45

@Nomorecoconutboosts I doubt the GP practice would still have notes from 40yrs ago! Worth a try though.

OP-was your mum with you during the examination? Sounds like they were checking for an anatomical abnormality that might have been causing the bed wetting? Had you injured yourself there? None of us would know though.

You can request your full medical history. My practice (very reluctantly) printed mine for health insurance reasons

drummermumma · 24/05/2024 00:21

itstheendoftheworldasweknowitnow · 23/05/2024 20:41

When I was about 8 I can remember being taken to the doctors for a vaginal examination. I can remember there being a female chaperone there with the Dr. I remember being very uncomfortable and not really understanding why this was happening. My mum (now deceased) said it was because I was a bed wetter. I never got the chance to ask her about it when I was an adult.
Did anyone else have this? Was it normal in the 80s?

Yes I too have this memory but my mum doesn't recall it. I think I was under 6. I did have a lot of urine infections back then..

BeanBeliever · 24/05/2024 00:44

OP : sounds like you may be experiencing some upsetting memories

I am over 40 and requested my medical records a couple of years ago, cost £50 but it was helpful to have a very complete record

Unrelated : I has a medical exam as a child (private area but not vaginal) - I found it very upsetting/confusing

Attitudes were different in the 80s, knowing what happened may give you sins peace and your medical records are probably a good place to start

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