Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Didn't get the job that I already do...

39 replies

LilacPombear · 20/05/2024 11:10

I found out I didn’t get an internal role - a role which I am currently doing. Only difference was contract and overall job security. All responsibilities and duties I have been doing for almost 2 years . The role came out last year and I had applied back then but a 'mix up' with a previous manager meant I missed out on the role. She apologised for her error and then few months later was replaced. New manager has been good and I felt, we had a good working relationship. I've been happier at work under the new management and felt I had grown in confidence.

There has been frustration regarding the new manager, that she lacks taking charge and is easily swayed by colleagues. So when she said during the feedback that it was the other interviewer (never met or seen this person before and has nothing to do with our department) felt I had no personality and was very formal, I was taken back slightly. Manager said it would have been nice to see more of my personality in the interview rather than 'answering the questions and getting to the point'. I'm not to sure what that mean if I'm being honest!

I was told my interview was outstanding but there was someone else who scored a few points more. This person does not currently do the job I'm doing but work for the organisations, so feels a bit crap that I didn't score high enough for a role I already do, particularly against someone who is unfamiliar with the way it all operates.

Before I applied, I made a list of Pros and Cons and honestly, my current position had more pros... but in terms of job security, the new role had the upper hand. Hence why I applied. I have plenty of experience, completed further studies so now have a qualification in a specialism (the only person to have this in our team). I've also taken on additional responsibilities' and trained the new trainees. Without blowing my own trumpet, the type of work I do has a mix of patient facing and liaising with other professions and I get glowing feedback. I've had people request to the manager if I can be on their department. It’s an emotionally challenging job and I thought I was good at it.

Without being outing I think a lot of it comes down to money, - it’s complicated but I am more 'expensive' to the organisation. I am also the youngest of my team and I know they will never say it, but I do think whether they 'worry' I'll go off on maternity etc. and they'll have to recruit again and all that. It's just a niggling feeling I had.

The difficult part is this is not the first time it has happened. The mix up last year and now not getting this, it just feels slightly embarrassing? Manager has also followed up if I'd be interested in an opportunity to train the new person?!

And a part of me (my ego I guess) wants to look for other jobs, but the thing about the job is that it really works well in terms of managing childcare etc. I also do love the job itself and the patients.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for - just wanted to get it all out!

OP posts:
BeeCucumber · 20/05/2024 14:43

Lack of personality- what a weak excuse for not giving you the job. Malicious compliance from now on OP - do the minimum amount of work you need to do without risking a competence review and definitely do not train the new person. You are not appreciated in this job and so you now know it’s time to look elsewhere.

Mumofoneandone · 20/05/2024 14:55

If you belong to a union, make contact with them just for a bit of back up - or join a union if you don't already. They can be really useful for a chat/support/employment advice. Absolutely vital resource if work play games with you.
You are close to the 2 year mark on employment rights and there maybe some calculated decisions being made around that.
What sex is the new employee?!

DancefloorAcrobatics · 20/05/2024 15:45

We have a bank staff member in our department. This person is applying for every job that comes up. In theory they are able to do the job and have experience. But this person lucks a cretin finesse and is sometimes unreliable plus a shitty work attitude if they don't want to do something or there is a last minute thing... so nope, we don't want this person on our team.

Now, I am not saying OP is like that, but I am sure there is a good reason for not giving her the job.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

DisforDarkChocolate · 20/05/2024 15:50

Lacking personality!! WTF, I'd be asking which part of the scoring process/criteria that was linked to.

They know you need the flexibility so they treat you like crap. Move on before it gets worse because you have no way forward here.

DisforDarkChocolate · 20/05/2024 15:51

I agree re the Union, I bet lack of personality is feedback they wouldn't have given to a man.

Mynewnameis · 20/05/2024 15:55

Happened to me once. Then I found a new job.
They found out new person was pregnant and asked if I would stay and cover. No chance

stickygotstuck · 20/05/2024 16:26

Can 'lack of personality' simply mean 'I personally don't like this woman and don't want to work with her'?

Still not your problem and not much you can do about that, OP (but if your feedback with patients is good, the organisation is missing a trick - again, their problem).

I'd slowly plan my exit but without rushing it, do the bare minimum while you find somewhere that fits in with you caring duties (and do not train the new person, obvs.)

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 20/05/2024 16:27

You've been doing the job for 2 years? On an interim and formal basis? Have you got a "stepping up allowance" or anything similar in place?
After 2 years, I'd be arguing that it was now a permanent variation to your contract of employment.
If however, you have been doing this on an informal basis, without pay and recognition you have two choices - vote with your feet; contact your union and discuss what help they can give you particularly if you've had good performance reviews during that time.

As for training up your replacement. As the better and more skilled candidate for the role, they should be able to hit the ground running.

It's a shit way to be treated though OP. Even worse that you enjoy it and it gives you the flexibility you need.

Groovee · 20/05/2024 17:13

This happened to me. I left and moved on. I was gutted at the time but I wouldn't be where I am now if I had stayed. It's worked out for the best but I had to take the leap of faith in myself.

Pollerono · 20/05/2024 17:30

This happened to me, although they bullied me on the way out too.

The personality comment sounds like a cop out and not something that would stand up with the union, I didn’t know they scored points for personality. Sounds like shitty management, especially the ‘mix up’ you mentioned; what’s that all about?

Crinkle77 · 20/05/2024 18:02

Also said I answered the questions with a ‘black and white approach’ and they would have liked to see it from a different angle.

Similar has happened to me where I haven't got an internal position over someone external. My bosses are scrupulously fair in that someone else just interviewed better on the day and had better examples. Also I think the comments about seeing it from a different angle are valid. An outsider will have no prior knowledge of the department and can bring a fresh perspective. The comments about your personality are out of order though.

Mrsbluesk1 · 20/05/2024 18:41

This happened to me before. I ended up leaving for a much better company. My employer eventually said they wish they made a different choice but I didn't get the post because I was already doing the job, but they wanted two people in the post. I was a part time cheap labour and the other person was on a contract with lots of great benefits.

chocolatecoveredpeanut · 20/05/2024 18:45

When you say others have asked you to move to their team - is there nothing on offer there to compare?

I don't think I could be the bigger person to "train" someone for a job I had been told I wasn't good enough for.

Wowzel · 20/05/2024 18:50

This happened to me, i was then expected to do the job whilst waiting for him to start.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page