Why do some men not seem to comprehend why women choose the bear

[Justkeepswiimming]

I do lots of wild camping on my own. I've just got into an argument with some bloke online, after he questioned a women who was looking for safe wild camping spots. He couldn't comprehend what she was worried about. I said that was part of the problem and he basically went on to say men are abused too women make sweeping generalisations, we make a huge thing out of something that rarely happens, and love to play the victim. All from a post where a women was asking for tips on how to safely camp alone. And didn't comprehend the irony of his comments diminishing that experiences most women have that make them rightfully cautious at night, in remote areas, alone.

Why is it that they cannot comprehend the threat men pose to women?

Some men are stupid and it looks like you stumbled across one of them.

Because they would rather argue that women must be wrong/bitches/misandrists, rather than examine their own behaviour to hold themselves and men in general accountable for the huge problems and outright danger they cause women.

@LamonicBibber1 he asked me to give examples, and frankly they have been too many to recall. But just a few things that make me cautious if men I don't know or large groups of men are,

Repeatedly being wolf whistled, heckled, called frigid by groups of grown men if I didn't respond from a young teen.

Going to clubs and having random blokes come up behind me and grind against me.

Being stalked. Frankly terrifying. I lived alone. Just separated from my ex and was in an enormously vulnerable place. He'd come to the house and walk round the side to the back and peer through the windows. I'd hide in the understairs cupboard or upstairs. I knew he looked out for my car as he'd appear after I got home.

The sexually inappropriate and explicit comments received by much older men in the workplace.

Just a few examples of why I'm cautious of unknown men. And some known.

He wanted examples? I'd have told him that he was one, and it was dickheads like him that women were wanting to avoid.

Why? Because they're not subject to that level of fear and the potential of sexual or violent assault on a daily basis as we are. And if they were assaulted, they wouldn't be expected to be blamed for it. It's just out of their experience.

I know a guy, he was in his fourties, 6ft 3 and he went to work in a Middle Eastern country, which had v strict rules about male and female segregation. He was shocked and appalled how many local men came on to him in nightclubs
( and had stories about other Western men potentially being abducted ), and he said, he finally understood what women were talking about, because he'd finally experienced the exact same thing that we do.

@Appalonia and I agree they don't experience it generally. But arguably you don't have to experience to agree its true. Its the vehemence that these men deny so many women saying the same things that shocks me. Most women I know will have been whistled at as a teenager by groups of grown men. Most women will have had to experience drunk grindy men in clubs or drunk men coming on to them with no encouragement. Lots of women will have been followed or had inappropriate comments made by groups of men in the street. Inappropriate comments made by men at work. I'm not saying all men are bad, I'm really not, but enough are doing this for it not to be a secret. They have either been guilty of it themselves or surely seen someone do it. Or at least have female relatives they care about who are saying these things happen. Yet so many are arguing the toss and turning it back on women.

There aren't all that many who argue the toss and turn it back on women. Unfortunately though, they tend to be the loud, stupid ones. And you can't argue with stupid.

@Justkeepswiimming I'm sorry you have gone through all of that, and I'm angry that we, as girls and women, pretty much all of us go through it all. I think a lot of men DO know, but they choose to benefit from it, and wilfully misinterpret why we are cautious. They are fully condoning the behaviour. And the men actually doing all of the stuff, they are beneath contempt. They are actively suppressing change.

It wasn't Reddit, was it, by any chance? I used to post there but I've deleted it now, because even the most inane comment gets a huge backlash of rude and unintelligent misogynistic hate from men when they realise it's a woman posting doesnt seem to matter what the topic is, there's a giant army of men sitting and taking every chance to verbally abuse women, probably to mask their own shitty flaws from being acknowledged by their own fragile egos.