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What has happened in Scotland?

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MidnightPatrol · 29/04/2024 12:26

Humza Yousaf has resigned today.

It seems very sudden - I can’t understand what exactly has happened.

I know some of his policies were unpopular, and I know he was considered the ‘continuity candidate’ for Sturgeon (who is I assume now disgraced re: husbands misuse of party funds?)

Anyone able to summarise the facts for
me? I can’t make head nor tail of the articles I’m reading.

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Chrysanthemum5 · 29/04/2024 12:54

It's all happening quickly because the SNP team around Humza are useless and have no strategy so they do things without understanding the obvious consequences. They dump the greens without understanding that as a minority party they are now vulnerable to a vote of no confidence. Humza is staying on until they get a replacement because his deputy is useless. But the greens have says they won't support a government led by him so the SNP now have a vote of no confidence in their government which they will probably lose.

Absolute idiots all of them

Hobnobswantshernameback · 29/04/2024 12:55

Apologies i know very little about Scottish politics but why are the SNP so unpopular currently?
they have been in government for some time so clearly have some backing?
sorry if that's a stupid question

Misthios · 29/04/2024 12:55

The Greens are back exactly where they belong - on the fringes. This bunch of extremists have had far too much say in what happens in Scotland for far too long.

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Misthios · 29/04/2024 12:57

Hobnobswantshernameback · 29/04/2024 12:55

Apologies i know very little about Scottish politics but why are the SNP so unpopular currently?
they have been in government for some time so clearly have some backing?
sorry if that's a stupid question

Corruption, corruption, a wee bit more corruption, the tragic state of the NHS, education, roads, we're all being taxed so much more and seeing nothing from it.

The whole "blame Westminster" excuse has worn thin, the SNP has been in power here for years and done the square root of fuck all.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 29/04/2024 12:58

MidnightPatrol · 29/04/2024 12:53

Thank you.

So the Greens plan was… to make them change their mind, as they need them to have enough power to do anything?

Potentially seems quite ‘cutting your nose off to spite your face’ for the Greens, given they will now have very limited influence from the outside?

Not really. The Green's position on government was no longer tenable. All their priority issues were getting dumped and in government they had to support that (collective responsibility). They now actually have more influence outside of government because on each issue the SNP have to persuade another party to support them rather than just relying on the Greens to back them up.

tobee · 29/04/2024 13:17

Misthios · 29/04/2024 12:55

The Greens are back exactly where they belong - on the fringes. This bunch of extremists have had far too much say in what happens in Scotland for far too long.

Will they not be able to jump back in if they get a new leader with whom they can restore BHA? Hope not

Jellycatspyjamas · 29/04/2024 13:27

He dumped the Greens so he could renage on the climate change promises.

Not quite true., the Greens had already threatened to exit the BHA following the Case report recommendations being implemented in the NHS in Scotland. The changing climate change promises came second and have given the Greens a handy platform to cry on. The reality it the Greens were more concerned about wanting to give children puberty blockers than they were about the environment. They threatened to leave the agreement, he called their bluff and now he doesn't have enough consensus in parliament to keep his position. He jumped before he was pushed.

MidnightPatrol · 29/04/2024 13:35

Jellycatspyjamas · 29/04/2024 13:27

He dumped the Greens so he could renage on the climate change promises.

Not quite true., the Greens had already threatened to exit the BHA following the Case report recommendations being implemented in the NHS in Scotland. The changing climate change promises came second and have given the Greens a handy platform to cry on. The reality it the Greens were more concerned about wanting to give children puberty blockers than they were about the environment. They threatened to leave the agreement, he called their bluff and now he doesn't have enough consensus in parliament to keep his position. He jumped before he was pushed.

Hoist by his own petard!

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IvorTheEngineDriver · 29/04/2024 14:12

Don't really care. The non-resignation of the Spanish PM looks much more interesting!

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 29/04/2024 15:01

IvorTheEngineDriver · 29/04/2024 14:12

Don't really care. The non-resignation of the Spanish PM looks much more interesting!

Whilst that may be interesting to you it won't impact many in the UK will it?

Perhaps you could start a thread about it.

ConsistentlyInconsistant · 29/04/2024 15:23

IvorTheEngineDriver · 29/04/2024 14:12

Don't really care. The non-resignation of the Spanish PM looks much more interesting!

You don't care to the point you opened the thread and proceeded to comment on it? Interesting.

battymaggot · 29/04/2024 15:33

The shitshow that is the Scottish political scene is personified by the 2 utter incompetent non-entities that have been allowed to take on roles for which they were never elected nor are remotely equipped intellectually, or by any qualifications, experience or training.
Lorna Slater n Patrick Harvie got pitifully few votes but were useful idiots to prop up the SNP. Each and every initiative they touched was a disaster. But didn't they just love the trappings of being pretendy 'ministers ' in the parish Council that is Holyrood?
Harvie, in dissing the Cass report underscored his arrogant stupidity. He has no scientific credentials whatsoever n lacks any notion of understanding how to judge the validity or reliability of scientific research. Yet he puffs up his wee weasel frame n declares that he won't accept the Cass findings. This begs the question why this -'green' creep is more excited by child health and safeguarding issues than by the SNP's dropping net zero targets.
Of course that would have nothing to do with Paedo Pat's links to dodgy PIE founders and members. The only award this perv ever won was named for a notorious paedophile. Harvie refused to return it and declined to distance himself from the movement.
As for Lorna Slater just Google the deposit scheme fiasco. It says it all.
Now the land that inspired the enlightenment is in thrall to Orwellian Hate Crime provisions and with every marker of good governance showing a steep decline.
Thanks Nicola n Humza for your legacy and for selling out to cling onto power. Shame on you.

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