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Yoyotent · 27/04/2024 02:13

....what is the best advice you can give me to help raise a happy, well-rounded, successful (however you chose to define it) son?

What have you learnt about young children that helps them? What should I avoid / keep in check?

What (metaphorical) seeds can I sow now?

He is 5.

Actually all advice/hints/tips (teachers and non-teachers) welcome!

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TheWhiteCakePendleton · 27/04/2024 02:23

That is a massive question. People have written libraries of books trying to answer it!

I'll just give you one thing that is currently on top for me (primary school teacher) - teach your son that the rules apply to everyone, including him. So many young people, and boys in particular, are not so much intentionally breaking the rules, it just literally has never occurred to them that the rules apply to them too. I think that attitude comes directly from how they have been brought up.

MalibuBarbieDreamHouse · 27/04/2024 02:58

I have always shown my pupils that everyone makes mistakes, that things aren’t easy and we have to keep trying if we want to achieve something… essentially resilience.

Empathy.

CountFucula · 27/04/2024 03:12

Teach him:
How to lose a game.
How to tie his shoes/put on his coat/pack his school bag

Read every single day to him a wide range of stories and poems
Practice cutting and sticking - get some magazines etc and chop them up
Give him your extra time and your love

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Ifallelsefailschocolate · 27/04/2024 03:36

Teach him that everyone learns by mistakes sometimes. If you show your frustration angrily, he will most likely take on your anger and feel shame or resentment rather than the personal accountability that you would like him to feel.

Be kind to yourself when you feel overwhelmed and like you’re “losing it”. Take a few slow. deep breaths and redirect, as necessary. Choose your teaching moments wisely when the two of you are both calm.

Hiker50 · 27/04/2024 04:57

Be a parent. Set boundaries with sleep and behaviour and keep to them.
Then just have lots of fun. Get outside as much as possible whatever the weather. Read to them for as long as possible. I read to my kids until they were 12 - we found chapter books we all loved.
Be kind and give them as much love as you can.

Yoyotent · 27/04/2024 07:52

This is all really interesting, thank you!

Another question for the teachers: is free play / imaginative play really that good for child development? Is it better than structured activities (eg lots of extra curricular activites)? Or how would you find the balance? Are any activities particularly good / worth pursuing? (With a 5/6/7 year old for example).

Thanks for all your wisdom!

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flutterby123 · 27/04/2024 08:01

Primary teacher here too. Lots of great advice above which I agree with. Your question about free/imaginative play - yes! It is very important (crucial in fact) to a child whole development and should be encouraged and you could try to ensure as many opportunities for your child to engage in this as possible. I think at 5/6/7 then structured activities can be good but I would view them as an opportunity for socialising and mixing with other children and learning to work together, follow some basic rules and work to realistic expectations, rather than to learn about or become proficient in the sport or activity itself.

Dollenganger333 · 27/04/2024 08:03

Yoyotent · 27/04/2024 02:13

....what is the best advice you can give me to help raise a happy, well-rounded, successful (however you chose to define it) son?

What have you learnt about young children that helps them? What should I avoid / keep in check?

What (metaphorical) seeds can I sow now?

He is 5.

Actually all advice/hints/tips (teachers and non-teachers) welcome!

Why do you think that teachers are all in a position to answer this? Teachers differ from each other a lot in their approaches just like people in any profession.

Andthereyougo · 27/04/2024 08:05

Respect for himself and others.
Empathy.
To listen.

Fridgetapas · 27/04/2024 08:07

Best activities to do at home:

Reading - fiction, non fiction and poetry and talk about the books and try and link to real life experience’
Lots of playing outside to work on gross motor doing walks, at parks, on bike, swimming if possible, enjoy and talk about nature, animals etc.
Talk, talk and talk to your child about everything they see in the world around them.
Fine motor skill activities - cutting, colouring, games which involve switches and smaller parts.
Baking and cooking

TigersTea · 27/04/2024 08:09

Support him, give him opportunities to play, challenge himself, to fail, to keep trying. Encourage him to see the joy in the process and the effort, not necessarily in the final outcome. He needs a well rounded, resilient attitude to be able to succeed in anything.

Read to him, read with him, help him to read. The biggest determiner in the academic outcomes of children I have taught is whether they can read or not.

EsotericMnemonic · 27/04/2024 08:09

Ex primary teacher, agreeing that free play is hugely important. It is how children can work through problems and difficult emotions, and practice social skills. I agree with all the tips here, and would add that encouraging emotional literacy is enormously important. Talk to your son about how he’s feeling and why, explain that crying is ok, model by talking about how different situations make you feel. Children I worked with who were always told to stop crying or just not allowed to express themselves were often those who had the most difficulties with friendships, learning, communicating, everything really.

TinyYellow · 27/04/2024 08:13

Free play is essential! Our job is to provide what young children need to learn for themselves.

Children need firm boundaries to feel settled and secure. You are there to parent, not be their best friend.

CountFucula · 27/04/2024 08:18

Dollenganger333 · 27/04/2024 08:03

Why do you think that teachers are all in a position to answer this? Teachers differ from each other a lot in their approaches just like people in any profession.

Yes but there are some fundamentals of child development that all teachers will have studied - the more anecdotal stuff, maybe, but the big stuff is research led.

Soontobe60 · 27/04/2024 08:23

Yoyotent · 27/04/2024 07:52

This is all really interesting, thank you!

Another question for the teachers: is free play / imaginative play really that good for child development? Is it better than structured activities (eg lots of extra curricular activites)? Or how would you find the balance? Are any activities particularly good / worth pursuing? (With a 5/6/7 year old for example).

Thanks for all your wisdom!

Absolutely free play / imaginative play is essential!
All too often I see parents micro managing every minute of their child’s free time. Children need to learn to entertain themselves and also that doing nothing is OK!
For a young child, I would encourage them to join something like Beavers or Rainbows as this will help develop their social skills independently. Forest school sessions can be great too. Another vital skill is learning to swim. Take them swimming every week and let them have fun. Once they’re confident in the water, then look at actual swimming lessons - but don’t make it a chore.
Routine generally is a good thing - plus lots of sleep.

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2024 08:28

Limit time on computer games. It stunts imagination and social skills and reduces ability to concentrate. This has a negative effect on behaviour.

Remember you are a parent not your child's friend. So parent and make sure you can say 'no'. Discipline is essential.

Teachers are not the enemy. If they say there is an issue, work with them rather than going into denial and insisting there's not a problem. Being nice to teachers even when there is an issue will help your cause more than getting angry at them.

Find your child's 'currency'. What motivates them. Don't be above bribery! Stick only works with carrot.

Make sure they feel loved and secure.

Be your child's advocate when necessary. Safeguard and challenge where appropriate. Remembering that teachers are not the enemy and you need to work with them. Use school policy and keep a cool head.

Don't challenge other parents. If you have a problem with answer child always go through school. This includes for issues that go one outside school. School can't do anything about those outside issues but then being aware of them can help them all round in terms of understanding dynamics.

It's not a competition. Some kids take long than others for things to click. Being a competitive parent isn't helpful. Learn your child's strengths and weaknesses. Learn their learning style. Know when they are slacking and need a kick up the bum and know when to back off.

Stainglasses · 27/04/2024 08:31

I’d just say that you are modelling everything. So treat him kindly and with respect and that’s how he will treat others. Model reading books, eating healthily, exercising, taking care of social relationships, good language and thinking etc etc. No pressure then!!

Supergirl1958 · 27/04/2024 08:35

Primary school teacher here

Resilience is key as other have eluded to! It’s ok to make mistakes, lose at games, be told not yet, in a few minutes. Also, a little bit of independence, being able to dress themselves, less reliance on the parents! You can imagine how difficult it can be getting a class ready for PE!! Also, not fussy! The older I get as a teacher the less I can deal
with fussiness from children and parents!

Covidwoes · 27/04/2024 08:44

I'm a primary teacher and a parent, and both are very different roles! From both perspectives, read to your child. It's so important. Allow plenty of time for free play. I'm also for everything in moderation. My kids have screen time, but we also do a lot of outdoor play too. I find from experience with children (as a teacher) who are completely deprived of something (eg sweets), when they get it they can go overboard! Obviously this isn't the case with every child, but I've seen it a lot. I've had to clean up vomit of children at Xmas parties who aren't allowed anything sweet at home, then get over excited when they can have it! My 5 year old DD has a trip to the funfair, a party today and another party tomorrow! I'm fully expecting her diet will be terrible this weekend! That's fine though, as next week she'll be eating healthily again. It's all about balance!

FrenchFancie · 27/04/2024 08:52

Oh gosh quite a list!
make sure he understands that rules and expectations apply to him as well as others! For some odd reason I seem to work with a lot of boys who genuinely don’t seem to realise this. School comes as a bit of a culture shock.

teach him how to deal with being angry and frustrated- and that hitting out is never ever the answer. Again, so many boys resort to hitting and kicking and seem shocked that we find it unacceptable.

reading - the single lost important thing to do with all children. Even once they can decode and read fluently, still read with them, listen to them read. Use a variety of texts. Read for the joy of reading.

Resilience - how to make mistakes, how to be wrong, how to come back from that. So many kids feel they have to be 100% right all of the time. Learning happens when we make mistakes and understand how it happened, how we do things differently next time, wether that’s maths, science or friendships.

not to be a little Prince / princess - some kids simply have to be the centre of attention all the time, get the best parts in plays, be the sports captain, be the best. It’s linked to resilience I think, but clearly in a class of 30 there can’t be 30 kids all being picked to speak all the time. Cruel as it sounds, please teach them how not to be the centre of attention all the time.

thats quite a long list, and most of it sounds negative! Mostly I would say teach your kid to be kind and have fun, and most of the rest will follow on!

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2024 08:55

Dogman is your friend.

MsJuniper · 27/04/2024 09:16

Regular bedtimes and limited screen time will help.

As others have said it's about learning to look outside himself - learn to lose, learn consent, learn respect. If you can learn to be happy for others as well as yourself, you will be a lot happier in life!

Learn to have a two way conversation - this is quite unusual in 7-8 year olds.

It's also important for us to learn as parents that we can't entirely control how happy or well-adjusted a child is - we can do our best, but there is always an element of individual personality or unavoidable events that will determine who they are - but we can provide security and stability for them so at times when they aren't so happy, they have a loving home with people they trust.

violetcuriosity · 27/04/2024 09:19

Love him. Give him boundaries. Xx

CentrifugalBumblePuppy · 27/04/2024 09:20

Teacher by training (long since ex!), recently left volunteering with 5-18 year olds.

The first is boundaries. Rules and expectations of acceptable behaviour need to be practiced. Don’t let your child get away with shite behaviour (or reward it) by giving in to their demands for the sake of a quiet life. Kind, gentle but firm parenting is key here. DD has high functioning autism, rules and guidance were still just as important (for her safety and reassurance) as an NT child (with modifiers if there are other needs that need to be taken into account of course).

Free play is vital, as is knowing how to be bored (or rather, developing strategies to mitigate boredom that they can do without your engagement). Playing, colouring, reading, Lego etc.

How to take turns. Board games are obviously great, but so are having lots of chats about anything, which leads to…

How to listen. And likewise how to ask questions and be interested in the things that others are talking about.

Having meals together sitting at a table, even if your children eat separately to you sit with them whilst they eat. Ask about their day, talk about things that interest them, or tell them things that you might have seen that day. You can easily spot the children who are plonked in front of the TV to eat dinner off their lap.

Good manners are also a part of this. As is teaching them how to hold a knife and fork, and when using fingers to eat is OK (pizza with a knife and fork? Blimey no 😂).

Lead by example. If you rant and rave about nothing, or are one of those who love a good shout when things aren’t going your way (or become over agitated and think stamping your feet and shouting gets you what you want when resolving issues, for example to customer service personnel) then your child will follow suit.

Books are always good. Never limit reading! And of course, reading at bedtime is great. Even if it’s a Hairy MacLeary for the billionth time!

Basic skills before school include how to do zips, put their shoes on (and teach tying laces when they’re ready). How to do buckles on shoes or clothes too.

Anything to help fine motor skills, like cutting and sticking.

Let them have time to stop and stare. Don’t fill every waking moment with an activity (sticking them in front of a TV counts as an activity).

Lots of time outside; walks, looking at trees, collecting leaves and sticks and stones, turning over a stone to see what’s living underneath (and putting it back exactly as you found it).

Learning how to lose and how to win.

That it’s OK to be sad sometimes (boys especially, none of this ‘boys don’t cry’ bullshit).

That it’s OK to be frightened, and how they can (gently) be guided or encouraged to face their fears.

How to help if they see that their friends are sad.

How words can be hurtful.

There’s a good activity using just a piece of paper. Ask your child to shout mean or horrible things at the paper. For every mean thing, you can both scrunch the paper.

When they’ve finished saying the mean words, get the to unfurl the paper and try to flatten it. Ask them to say nice things and apologies to the paper as they do it.

Can they make the paper as flat as it was when they started? Or is the paper always going to have creases made by the nasty words or phrases? Did saying sorry (though always good) make creases all go away?

Of course you can throw money at all of this, but you really don’t have to. I had DS as a late teen, single parent student (broke obviously!); free walks through the woods, or even to the park, using leaflets through the door (or the old Argos catalogues, it was a long time ago!) for craft & glue made from flour and water, and libraries are your friend!

When I met now DH and had more money, of course we could pay to nurture DS (and now DD’s) interests. And it’s important not to push your child to do an activity they hate. DS loved dance and drama, DD bloody hated it, so we switched to something she was interested in (riding, thank god we had money then lol). And both excelled by encouraging their interests and not forcing them to do clubs they hated.

In my own experience, I absolutely hated playing the violin. 10 awful years followed and I’d become anxious and moody before the lesson, hated the lesson itself, and then the cycling would restart again after ad infinitum. I was very good at the recorder, but because of the parental insistence to keep playing the bloody violin I was never allowed to switch to a woodwind instrument.

(You can cross reference with other posts of mine, narc mother, so what she wanted us to do went, with no discussion. Fucking awful).

Kids don’t have to have all of these skills ready for the moment they enter nursery or reception. But working towards them is always advantageous and gives your child the foundation blocks for future learning and socialising with their peers.

And lots of clean sleep! No devices before bed, having a good, relaxed bedtime if you can is always noticeable the next day.

dandeliondaisy · 27/04/2024 09:20

Your time. Conversation and connection. Affection in spades. And through all that connection he will learn how to be a good person who enjoys giving and receiving respect, listening skills, boundaries, a desire to do his best. So many children are very detached from their parents for various reasons and expectations which doesn't make for happy children Confused