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Dd hit car whilst riding her bike

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Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 21:48

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of!
Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

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beAsensible1 · 23/04/2024 00:12

WarshipRocinante · 22/04/2024 23:06

No one was injured. This doesn’t fall into any of the reasons to inform the police.

Edited

Didn’t OP say her daughter has a bruise?

DoreenonTill8 · 23/04/2024 00:13

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:09

The ‘child’ was cycling illegally and dangerously. The driver was not driving dangerously

Again - you are trying to say the driver is LUCKY that the OP isn’t committing fraud against him? But that he’s a ‘butter’ for trying to get money out of the person who damaged his car. WTF.

Question for you: If someone caused criminal damage to your front door by say punching it several times, and hurt their hand, would you consider yourself lucky they weren’t suing you for damage to their hand?

Think in Stigs land the homeowners should open the door immediately, apologise for the delay, and allow the victim to take whatever they want, then report themselves to the police for a vicious front door?

Poshcatwithbigears · 23/04/2024 00:16

Regardless of who was at fault, it was, nevertheless, an accident.
Regardless of who was at fault, the fact remains that he left the scene of an accident where a person hit their head on his car while travelling at speed.
You don’t know if someone with a head injury is ok just by asking them if they’re ok !

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:16

DoreenonTill8 · 23/04/2024 00:08

So he's still the nutter not the 17 year-old for cycling illegally and into him?

I don’t get it either. And he is apparently lucky he’s not a fraud victim too 😂

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:17

Fintoo · 23/04/2024 00:11

It could easily have been another cyclist on that road (where they are supposed to be) instead of a car. Who could have been significantly injured if the DD hurtled into them from the side (whilst cycling on the pavement). Would people still be defending her then?

Ive said already there could also have been a toddler coming round the corner. A cyclist going fast would kill a small child at speed

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 00:17

marmiteoneverything · 22/04/2024 23:52

Is a 17 year old in a car a child driver? 🤔

Legally, yes. If they were prosecuted for driving offences the case would be heard in a youth court, not an adult court. Parents would be held responsible for any financial penalties imposed. If the offence was drunk driving then the person who supplied the alcohol to the 17yo would also be held liable.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:19

DoreenonTill8 · 23/04/2024 00:11

@Stigglet are you a 'we sue everyone' ambulance chaser 'lawyer'?...
'Were you injured when you tried to rob a shop and slipped on a wet floor'? Did they make you wait before emptying the till and youre now traumatised they didnt do what you asked straight away?.. call 0300 811 81 81 and we'll help you sue, YOU ARE THE VICTIM!!

Also let’s not forget we are in the age of CCTV. You can guarantee a Ring doorbell would be in the vicinity and you’d just know that the grifters like @Stigglet who think they’re oh so clever with their lies get caught out very easily these days. There’s a whole daytime TV show on the BBC dedicated to it and it’s glorious watching scammers get their commupence

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:20

beAsensible1 · 23/04/2024 00:12

Didn’t OP say her daughter has a bruise?

She said she may have a bruise but she’s ‘not injured’.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/04/2024 00:20

@Sfuandtired

  1. Get to A&E to get DD's head checked over. A bruise is an injury, no matter what certain posters say.
  2. Get legal advice. Never mind posting on here, this rabble will give you eleven different answers from ten posters.
YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:21

Poshcatwithbigears · 23/04/2024 00:16

Regardless of who was at fault, it was, nevertheless, an accident.
Regardless of who was at fault, the fact remains that he left the scene of an accident where a person hit their head on his car while travelling at speed.
You don’t know if someone with a head injury is ok just by asking them if they’re ok !

TBH I wouldn’t personally expect someone wearing a helmet to have a head injury but I have a feeling she wasn’t wearing one.

Probably the driver’s fault as well

Poshcatwithbigears · 23/04/2024 00:21

Oh dear, this post has been hijacked by the anti cycling mob 😂
( May I divert you all to another cyclists versus cars thread on here … it’s been going on for months !)

OP is asking for advice, not a debate.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:21

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 00:17

Legally, yes. If they were prosecuted for driving offences the case would be heard in a youth court, not an adult court. Parents would be held responsible for any financial penalties imposed. If the offence was drunk driving then the person who supplied the alcohol to the 17yo would also be held liable.

So tell us then, if a ‘child’ 17yo was illegally cycling on a pavement and caused an accident or injury, what would happen?

DoreenonTill8 · 23/04/2024 00:22

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:19

Also let’s not forget we are in the age of CCTV. You can guarantee a Ring doorbell would be in the vicinity and you’d just know that the grifters like @Stigglet who think they’re oh so clever with their lies get caught out very easily these days. There’s a whole daytime TV show on the BBC dedicated to it and it’s glorious watching scammers get their commupence

Ah but @YaMuvva the grifters would increase the wails of 'you paedophile!!! You are recording A CHILD!!! Go straight to hell, do not pass go!! EVVIL EVIL PERSON!!' 😆

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:23

Poshcatwithbigears · 23/04/2024 00:21

Oh dear, this post has been hijacked by the anti cycling mob 😂
( May I divert you all to another cyclists versus cars thread on here … it’s been going on for months !)

OP is asking for advice, not a debate.

Has it?

Before we all knew that the OP’s DD had in fact been cycling on the pavement, it was assumed the driver pulled out in front of her and the sympathy was all with the DD.

However I am VERY anti cyclist when they decide to cycle on the pavement. If OP wants advice mine is she needs to tell her DD to never ever do that again because frankly she’s lucky that the worst thing is a dented panel and not a dead child

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:24

DoreenonTill8 · 23/04/2024 00:22

Ah but @YaMuvva the grifters would increase the wails of 'you paedophile!!! You are recording A CHILD!!! Go straight to hell, do not pass go!! EVVIL EVIL PERSON!!' 😆

😂😂😂

If a child driver hits my car am I lucky if they don’t sue me??? Or am I immune because I’m a lady?

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 00:26

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:19

Also let’s not forget we are in the age of CCTV. You can guarantee a Ring doorbell would be in the vicinity and you’d just know that the grifters like @Stigglet who think they’re oh so clever with their lies get caught out very easily these days. There’s a whole daytime TV show on the BBC dedicated to it and it’s glorious watching scammers get their commupence

I’m not dishonest and I’ve never lied about anything. But people do, all the time.

And anyway, it’s possible that OP’s child has a legitimate claim. The car drove out in front of her and failed to give way (the Highway Code requires cars to give way to cyclists). The driver failed to inform emergency services about the collision and failed to seek medical assistance for the cyclist. He also left the scene of an accident without providing his insurance details to the cyclist (OP said he took her DD’s name and number but didn’t mention that he provided his own details). I’d say the driver is very fortunate if OP’s DD doesn’t put in a claim to his insurance, because she absolutely could.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/04/2024 00:27

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:23

Has it?

Before we all knew that the OP’s DD had in fact been cycling on the pavement, it was assumed the driver pulled out in front of her and the sympathy was all with the DD.

However I am VERY anti cyclist when they decide to cycle on the pavement. If OP wants advice mine is she needs to tell her DD to never ever do that again because frankly she’s lucky that the worst thing is a dented panel and not a dead child

Edited

There are many pavements near me that are signed as being shared-use cycle paths. I don't agree with their existence because they are dangerous to pedestrian and cyclist alike, but nonetheless they exist and a cyclist using them is within the law to do so.

I don't think OP ever clarified whether this was a pavement qua shared-use cycle path or pavement qua pedestrian walkway, so we cannot state based on the available information whether the girl was wrong to be using it.

DoreenonTill8 · 23/04/2024 00:32

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 00:26

I’m not dishonest and I’ve never lied about anything. But people do, all the time.

And anyway, it’s possible that OP’s child has a legitimate claim. The car drove out in front of her and failed to give way (the Highway Code requires cars to give way to cyclists). The driver failed to inform emergency services about the collision and failed to seek medical assistance for the cyclist. He also left the scene of an accident without providing his insurance details to the cyclist (OP said he took her DD’s name and number but didn’t mention that he provided his own details). I’d say the driver is very fortunate if OP’s DD doesn’t put in a claim to his insurance, because she absolutely could.

Given that's all lies as dd cycled into them and there's no .witnesses or.video footage, who's to say the dd isn't lying, cycled into a wall, and just falsely took the details of a nearby car to blame them?
Would you be happy being contacted by the police if someone random contacted the police with no evidence saying you'd hit them?

sandyhappypeople · 23/04/2024 00:32

beAsensible1 · 23/04/2024 00:12

Didn’t OP say her daughter has a bruise?

she said her daughter wasn't injured, but she may develop a bruise.

Poshcatwithbigears · 23/04/2024 00:35

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:23

Has it?

Before we all knew that the OP’s DD had in fact been cycling on the pavement, it was assumed the driver pulled out in front of her and the sympathy was all with the DD.

However I am VERY anti cyclist when they decide to cycle on the pavement. If OP wants advice mine is she needs to tell her DD to never ever do that again because frankly she’s lucky that the worst thing is a dented panel and not a dead child

Edited

I agree re shouldn’t be on the pavement but the driver still drove away from the scene of an accident which is an offence if someone has potentially suffered an injury.

If a car driver suffers an injury they get sympathy even if they were at fault (somehow the car is to blame … “ the car left the road”)

If a cyclist gets hurt, it somehow serves them right 🙄no matter what.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:37

Stigglet · 23/04/2024 00:26

I’m not dishonest and I’ve never lied about anything. But people do, all the time.

And anyway, it’s possible that OP’s child has a legitimate claim. The car drove out in front of her and failed to give way (the Highway Code requires cars to give way to cyclists). The driver failed to inform emergency services about the collision and failed to seek medical assistance for the cyclist. He also left the scene of an accident without providing his insurance details to the cyclist (OP said he took her DD’s name and number but didn’t mention that he provided his own details). I’d say the driver is very fortunate if OP’s DD doesn’t put in a claim to his insurance, because she absolutely could.

Yes people lie but no one is ‘lucky’ is they escape the claims a fraudster or other criminal.

The car clearly did not drive out in front of her and if she was to make that lie in legal proceedings, and found to be lying (which she would be) she’d be in serious trouble.

Also FYI it’s not a ‘legitimate claim’ if she is lying about it. Anyone lying about an RTA these days would be VERY foolish to do so because even if you don’t have a dash can or helmet can you can guarantee someone nearby does and caught every second. Same for doorbell cams.

He didn’t need to inform emergency services or seek medical assistance for her. under what precedent would they be suing exactly? What would they be claiming for? Can you even tell us?! The accident was her fault, she isn’t injured. She was cycling illegally. What is she claiming for?

He also doesn’t need to give his insurance details to a cyclist. Or a driver, at the scene of the accident.

Please stop talking about things you know nothing about.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:40

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 23/04/2024 00:27

There are many pavements near me that are signed as being shared-use cycle paths. I don't agree with their existence because they are dangerous to pedestrian and cyclist alike, but nonetheless they exist and a cyclist using them is within the law to do so.

I don't think OP ever clarified whether this was a pavement qua shared-use cycle path or pavement qua pedestrian walkway, so we cannot state based on the available information whether the girl was wrong to be using it.

Edited

I agree with you I don’t like shared use pavements. Many years ago I was hit on the arm by a cyclist in the pedestrian area, so hard I spun round and had a massive bruise. The wanker flipped me the bride and cycled off

The OP hasn’t been back and probably won’t be. But my guessing is that it wasn’t a shared pathway - if it was then they usually end before junctions or have give way signs so she’d still be in the wrong - and I’m guessing she wasn’t wearing a helmet either

Mumtobabyhavoc · 23/04/2024 00:42

Contact police since you don't have insurance info. Doesn't sound like driver had ROW.

YaMuvva · 23/04/2024 00:43

Poshcatwithbigears · 23/04/2024 00:35

I agree re shouldn’t be on the pavement but the driver still drove away from the scene of an accident which is an offence if someone has potentially suffered an injury.

If a car driver suffers an injury they get sympathy even if they were at fault (somehow the car is to blame … “ the car left the road”)

If a cyclist gets hurt, it somehow serves them right 🙄no matter what.

He didn’t drive away he checked she was OK (she said she was) and exchange details. It’s only an offence when drivers don’t stop to check. That’s what’s meant by ‘driving away’. It’s perfectly fine to drive away once that’s been done. Or were you under the impression drivers had to walk away after accidents?

If a cyclist is cycling on a pavement at speed and isn’t looking then crashes into a car who was driving legally - who else’s fault is it?!

I’ve never known someone responsible for a car accident getting sympathy TBH.

gkdf · 23/04/2024 00:43

This exact thing happened to a friend except it was an aggressive male on the bike. It went to court because he refused to pay for the damage. Court found in favour of my friend and he had to pay up.

I think the right thing to do is pay for the damage.

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