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Dd hit car whilst riding her bike

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Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 21:48

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of!
Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

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SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 13:55

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:53

You can’t know this, cyclists are hit and killed every day while using the road perfectly and with zero errors.

I can know this because if she had been using the road correctly she would not have been able to cycle into the side of a car turning left onto it. THIS accident would not have happened.

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:56

JinglingSpringbells · 23/04/2024 13:54

@Cherryon Oh come on! You're now saying that a footpath is part of a road?

😂 Maybe that's the get out excuse for a cyclist stopped for cycling on a pavement.

'Sorry officer, but it's part of the road.'

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A footpath is not the pavement of a road. I think you are confused. Public footpaths are generally off-road.

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 13:56

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:53

The pavement along the main road is part of the main road.

It really isn't.

JinglingSpringbells · 23/04/2024 13:56

@Cherryon Kindly, give your head a wobble.

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 13:57

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:56

A footpath is not the pavement of a road. I think you are confused. Public footpaths are generally off-road.

And a pavement is not part of the road.

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:57

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 13:55

I can know this because if she had been using the road correctly she would not have been able to cycle into the side of a car turning left onto it. THIS accident would not have happened.

Nah, you can’t know it. It still could have happened.

viques · 23/04/2024 13:57

noshadowatnoon · 23/04/2024 13:51

They should not get into the path of someone travelling along the main road, the road the car is turning into. That doesn't matter whether the person travelling is in a car, on a bike or on foot, the car coming up to that T junction has no right to cross their path

Ok, so what’s the procedure when someone crashes into your car because they were riding a bike on the pavement and didn’t stop at the kerb before riding straight onto the road where you were waiting to turn?

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 13:58

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:57

Nah, you can’t know it. It still could have happened.

Only in a parallel universe where everything is backwards and mirror-image reversed.

Do you understand what a pavement is? That's a genuine question, because I'm honestly thinking you don't at this point.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 23/04/2024 13:59

Mine cycle on the pavement where we have them as the we have no cycle lanes, we are an HGV heavy area and the pot holes are something else.

always cautious around pedestrians and junctions.

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:59

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 13:57

And a pavement is not part of the road.

The Highway Code says it is as all users of pavements are also referred to as “Road users”

”204
The road users most at risk from road traffic are pedestrians, in particular children, older adults and disabled people, cyclists, horse riders and motorcyclists. It is particularly important to be aware of children, older adults and disabled people, and learner and inexperienced drivers and riders. In any interaction between road users, those who can cause the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they pose to others.”

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 14:01

I highly encourage posters to read the new Highway Code as there is a lot of outdated misinformation based opinions on this thread.

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 14:01

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 14:01

I highly encourage posters to read the new Highway Code as there is a lot of outdated misinformation based opinions on this thread.

And I highly encourage you to read a dictionary.

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 14:03

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:57

Nah, you can’t know it. It still could have happened.

How. She would have been on the left hand side of the main road with him turning left on to it in order to travel in the opposite direction. please explain how she could possible have driven into the side of him (without inventing scenarios such as him inexplicably driving on the wrong side of the road).

Dd hit car whilst riding her bike
BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 14:04

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:59

The Highway Code says it is as all users of pavements are also referred to as “Road users”

”204
The road users most at risk from road traffic are pedestrians, in particular children, older adults and disabled people, cyclists, horse riders and motorcyclists. It is particularly important to be aware of children, older adults and disabled people, and learner and inexperienced drivers and riders. In any interaction between road users, those who can cause the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they pose to others.”

That doesn’t mention pavements.

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 14:05

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 14:03

How. She would have been on the left hand side of the main road with him turning left on to it in order to travel in the opposite direction. please explain how she could possible have driven into the side of him (without inventing scenarios such as him inexplicably driving on the wrong side of the road).

She's imagining this backwards. She must be, because nobody could possibly be this dim.

I honestly think she either a) doesn't know what a pavement is, b) is from a country where they drive on the opposite side of the road or c) god forbid, doesn't know her left from her right.

TheGander · 23/04/2024 14:12

This could have been me except I have a DS17 not a DD. Pulled into a road and onto a cars bonnet, went to A and E thankfully nothing broken and no head injury, just cuts. Yes he was cycling on the pavement ( which was heavily obstructed with parked cars affecting his visibility of incoming car). It’s his cycle to school and I have cycled it as well a couple of times and nearly been knocked off the road by white vans.
I can see it’s not nice for the driver, but the generally “cars first” culture, lack of safe cycle lanes, people parking on pavements etc make a hostile environment for bikes.
We’re not car owners and trains are unreliable hence he cycles .
We paid half the driver’s costs for replacing the windscreen as she didn’t want to go through her insurance. Not sure it’s the end of it as the police has contacted us saying someone wants to take civil action, but won’t name who the parties are.

MintTraybake · 23/04/2024 14:17

Sfuandtired · 22/04/2024 21:57

Dd is shaken up and worried she’s going to have to pay for the damage, but not injured, although we think her face may bruise, I am seriously thinking we should possibly call the police?

You do not need to call your insurance at all. The driver would have to take your DD to civil court to claim anything back.

Call the police if you get any harassment or issues from the driver. Sometimes they will declare a no fault accident/claim if your DD was negligent in causing the damage.

For a total accident? I wouldnt unless the damage is extreme. You could offer them a token, without prejudice, but its a bit poor form if your DD genuinely just didnt see and it was a total accident.

I've had a cyclist hit my wing mirror off before and didnt ask them to pay. accidents happen. hope DD is ok

MrsAvocet · 23/04/2024 14:18

New laws mean if car hits cyclist or pedestrian then car driver is at fault.
I don't think that is true. The hierarchy of road users places the most vulnerable users at the top and the recent Highway Code changes are designed to protect them, but it doesn't give them carte blanche. And everyone has a responsibility to behave responsibly anyway.
The assumption that a lot of posters are making, that the girl was riding illegally on the pavement, may of course not be true. It would be helpful if the OP would clarify whether it was a shared use path or not. But even if it is, they virtually all have give way markings when they cross minor roads (one of the many reasons why I don't like cycling on them) so it is likely that the cyclist was at fault. I have hit the side of a stationary car who pulled out of a side road in front of me when I was cycling and then stopped, but the difference is that I was on the main road so had right of way and the laws of physics rendered it impossible for me to stop in time!

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 14:19

The driver would have to take your DD to civil court to claim anything back.

Their insurer might.

MintTraybake · 23/04/2024 14:19

SoupDragon · 23/04/2024 14:03

How. She would have been on the left hand side of the main road with him turning left on to it in order to travel in the opposite direction. please explain how she could possible have driven into the side of him (without inventing scenarios such as him inexplicably driving on the wrong side of the road).

If the cyclist was on the wrong side of the road, it still means the driver wasn't paying attention/looking properly if he didn't see her.

Could have been a motorcyclist and have wiped them out.

NeedToChangeName · 23/04/2024 14:20

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 09:27

Not only that but the driver will have to take an at fault claim hit on their insurance because the insurer is unable to claim from the at fault party’s insurance. If the diagram is correct there’s absolutely no doubt that it was her fault, she was on the wrong side of the road for a start. I’d be so pissed off if I was the driver.

@Blossomtoes the driver would only risk losing their NCD if the insurers cannot recover the loss. If they recover the cost of repairs from OP's DD personally, then I don't think the driver's insurance would be affected

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 14:21

NeedToChangeName · 23/04/2024 14:20

@Blossomtoes the driver would only risk losing their NCD if the insurers cannot recover the loss. If they recover the cost of repairs from OP's DD personally, then I don't think the driver's insurance would be affected

I know. I thought that’s what I said. 🤷‍♀️

AE9766 · 23/04/2024 14:22

MintTraybake · 23/04/2024 14:19

If the cyclist was on the wrong side of the road, it still means the driver wasn't paying attention/looking properly if he didn't see her.

Could have been a motorcyclist and have wiped them out.

It absolutely doesn't. Because if he was pulling out into the main road, and she was coming down the pavement (which she was), then his driving position and therefore his line of sight would have been IN FRONT OF where she rode into the side of his car. He does not have eyes in the back of his head.

Despite militant cyclists' vehement hatred of car drivers, there is no way for them to spin this so that the driver is at fault. Absolutely none. Although I'm sure it won't stop them trying.

NeedToChangeName · 23/04/2024 14:25

BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 14:21

I know. I thought that’s what I said. 🤷‍♀️

@Blossomtoes I was just pointing out that lack of insurance for OP's DD doesn't necessarily = driver's insurance would be affected

taxguru · 23/04/2024 14:30

Cherryon · 23/04/2024 13:48

Cyclists going straight ahead have priority…

The driver should have given way

”211
It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are waiting alongside you, coming up from behind, coming out of or moving off from junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think.

Do not turn at a junction if to do so would cause the cyclist going straight ahead to stop or swerve, just as you would do with a motor vehicle.
When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for and give way to cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when moving off, turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully.”
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/motorcyclists-and-cyclists.html

That's if the cyclist is actually cycling on the road, in the right direction, etc.

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