Dd hit car whilst riding her bike

[Sfuandtired]

Dd 17 has collided with a car tonight whilst riding her bike, she was crossing the road and from what I can make out didn’t see the car turning, she hit the car with her wheel leaving a dent and was thrown over the handle bars banging her head on the window, the driver got out, asked if she was ok, took her name and phone number, then said he was late for work and drove of!
Dd has since had a text saying she will be sent a bill and bank details for the damage to the car! WWYD?

How can you give way to a cyclist you can't see , who's on the pavement, and who doesn't stop when they cross a junction?

If your Daughter was in the wrong and caused the accident, why shouldn't she have to pay for the damage she caused ?

If you are waiting to turn at a junction and a cyclist who is some distance away whilst you are waiting and is on a pavement then gets to the pavement, doesnt' stop and hits you, how do you give way?

If a cyclist is on the pavement, waiting to cross, then you give way.

But you can't give way if you are at the junction, waiting to turn and someone approaches, doesn't stop and hits you.

Dd was on the pavement, crossing over to the other side of the road, she said that there was quite a large hedge so they possibly both didn’t see the other, do you think I should make contact with the driver or block him?

Looking at your diagram you've already confirmed that although it looks like your DD was on the wrong side of the road she was infact on the pavement.

You say your DD went into the side of the vehicle, also from your diagram is it possible that the car was already stationary at the T junction when your DD hit him?

If this is the case I can't see how the driver is at fault.

The driver met his legal obligations of stopping to assist and ask about your daughter, whose fault it was. Exchanging names numbers etc is also the correct thing. The man has not behaved badly.
How to proceed. I would ask the driver to obtain two quotes and, depending on how expensive the repair is, the driver may ask your daughter to pay the repair bill or go through his insurance.
If I were your daughter I would hope the repairs are under a couple of thousand and I would happily pay. Obtain a signed receipt that the driver has asked for repairs and that you have paid them.
Thankfully your daughter has no injuries, which negates the necessity to contact the Police.

Imagine you have a car that is coming out of a drive onto the road, that has a hedge.

Which is scary anyway when you pull out. You pull out slowly, looking for traffic.

And whilst waiting to get onto the road, a cyclist is cycling on the pavement and hits you.

Is the cyclist at fault or the driver?

Two issues here. Injury and liability.

As others say DD should probably see a Doctor; head injuries can get nasty if there's internal bleeding or whatever. Without getting into a debate on helmets even if she was wearing one they're only designed to mitigate relatively low speed impacts.

Not clear from the OP account who was at fault but I'm guessing since crossing is mentioned and 'didn't see' she might be at fault. If so then she's liable for the repair cost. Assume she/you are not members of the CTC or similar where insurance is part of the package. Does household insurance cover this sort of liability - it often does.

He can claim on his insurance with the insurer coming after DD, there can be problems taking action against minors but not sure that's an issue in an RTA situation with a 17yo. If it's simpler and cheaper to pay him direct, say against a bodyshop quote then obvs you can do so but make sure you've got name/address and that he signs that any sum is full/final.

Our son, in late pre-teens, damaged a neighbours car scraping his handlebar 'horns' on it while parked. Cost was about £250 which I paid as the excess on CTC was more.

I can imagine the comments if an adult male cyclist , in lycra, was on the pavement and drove into the side of a young female's car who was waiting at the junction in the same scenario.

That would be an interesting psychological experiment with people.

Cyclist should not be riding on the pavement.
Looked like young woman cyclist was also on the wrong side of the road.
This car was on road not driveway,.

I know - it was just testing a similar scenario. Cyclist on pavement hits car waiting to turn legally. Whose fault is it?

He should have stopped so she's not at fault

I saw something similar to this a year ago (I was in my car and could have been a witness.)

A driver was pulling off a junction at a roundabout into a petrol station forecourt. Driver was in left hand lane and his entry to the garage was clear.

Suddenly, a cyclist (male, middle aged, no helmet) appeared to the driver's left, on the pavement, cycling very fast and went straight across in front of the car. How the driver managed to stop is a miracle. Several people on the pavement gasped as we all though the cyclist was going to be hit.

It was clearly the cyclist's fault because he was going faster than the car (which was doing maybe 5mph) and he was on pavement, and he didn't stop approaching the garage junction.

Hi OP, tell your daughter not to worry. Even if she is at fault it will be very difficult and a lot of hassle for the driver to make her pay. Morally, thats a different issue!
6months ago a 14/15year old lad walked straight out into the road without looking because he was on his phone into my car whilst I was driving. Luckily, I saw him ahead and slowed to 15mph but the impact sill managed to pull my off-side wing mirror off my car and smash the glass on impact. I stopped, called the police. He unwillingly rang his mum who refused to give me her details. Basically, they refused to pay and I was left either with a bill of £900 or the option of insurance claim. Police wouldn't do anything so I paid myself versus the cost of small claims and hassle.

She banged her head on the windscreen, the driver nor the cyclist can make the assumption there are no injuries.

He should have contacted the Police, perhaps he didn't because he hasn't any insurance himself.

Was the pavement a shared a path? sorry no read the entire thread.

If she went into the side of his car, maybe he was already stationary?

If the car is stationary, it's absolutely the cyclist's fault imo.

@Sfuandtired actually, law change, cyclists and pedestrians have right of way over cars therefore accident is the car drivers fault

This. I’d phone him as a very angry parent and say that I’m dealing with it now, not DD. I would contact the police for advice. If she is at fault, then your home insurance will have to cover it if you have personal liability. But I would sure as hell try to cause him maximum problems due to his leaving the scene of an accident.

And to those saying why on the pavement? Here we have shared use pavements, perfectly legal to cycle on them but you are meant to stop/pause at roads with markings indicating this for just the reasons this whole scenario indicates

V true but drivers have to give way to people crossing a junction... in this situation, there are too many variables/unknowns, which is why the Police should be informed & if they say its the cyclists fault, the OP will have to pay for the damage (assuming it was caused by the cyclist) & the driver has insurance.

If a car is stationary and a bike cycling on a pavement hits it - there is no right of way. How can a stationary car give way to a moving cyclist?

This happened to me. I was pulling out at a junction and a kid on the pavement rode straight into the side on my van, went over and hit the windscreeen. I checked he was okay and made him ring his mum. I had to have the windscreen repaired for a crack but I didn't ask for money towards it.

How has he admitted it?

She is 17 not 7 and shouldn't need "an angry parent" phoning anyone. The 17 year old caused the accident she need s to deal with it.

Wrong on all counts.

A 17-year-old is liable for their own negligence and can be sued.

A collision only needs to be reported if you were unable to exchange details, someone was injured, or you suspect that a driving offence has been committed. The driver has not committed a crime.