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It's another will one. What do you think about this will?

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LindorDoubleChoc · 18/04/2024 20:06

Single parent dies. They have two children in their 60s. I'm using children in the broadest term here because obviously they are not children.

One of these has two children in their early 20s (their only grand children). The other "child" has none.

The child who has no children is pretty well off. The child with two children is not so well off (possibly because apparently it costs £180,000 per child to raise them from birth to 18).

The parent divides the will one third each to her two children, and one third for the grand children to be split 50/50 between them.

What do you think of that?

OP posts:
ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 18/04/2024 22:38

Both children have benefitted equally.
Both grandchildren have benefitted equally.
This seems more than reasonable to me.
What the children choose to do with their money, whether it is leave it to next generation, spend it on fast living or care home fees, is their choice.
There is no indication in the OP about the value of the estate, but a decent size bequest is going to be far more use to the grandkids than the kids here.

I won't be getting anything from my parents, as they are leaving it all to my older, much wealthier brother. Last time I spoke to them about it, I did ask that if they changed their minds on this, could they bypass me and leave it to my kids.

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:38

TheSmallAssassin · 18/04/2024 22:29

They aren't right, @Superlambaanana in no way is it 66/33, and OP is not inheriting any more than their sibling. Do the grandchildren not exist as separate people to you?

Why do childless people always get the shit end of the stick? Why should the childless chlid get less than 50% of their parents' wealth?

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:40

TheSmallAssassin · 18/04/2024 22:32

I think it's better that the grandchildren get some money in their 20s too.

The grandchildrens' parents should give them some of their money then. Instead of the grandchildren stealing from their childless aunt.

chocmatcha · 18/04/2024 22:40

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:38

Why do childless people always get the shit end of the stick? Why should the childless chlid get less than 50% of their parents' wealth?

The "nonchildfree" child is also getting less than 50%

If anyone makes a fuss about this I hope karma gets them

SoupDragon · 18/04/2024 22:41

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:25

Lampshadeblue
I actually think this is unfair and I can see that the sibling without children will feel hurt. I think the sibling with the children seems quite grabby.

@LindorDoubleChoc
What makes you think the sibling with children "seems quite grabby"?

Em, might be your shocking tone. Those pointing out it's a 66/33 split are right yet you've dismissed them out of hand because it's not what you want to hear. Your childless sibling will be hurt by this. They may not choose to say anything though. I suspect you have already decided it's perfectly fair regardless of what anyone, including your sibling, thinks. Funny how those who inherit more always find it fair and equitable!

Those pointing out it's a 66/33 split are right

No they aren't, they are completely wrong. It's split between 4 individual adults 33/33/16.5/16.5

chocmatcha · 18/04/2024 22:41

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:40

The grandchildrens' parents should give them some of their money then. Instead of the grandchildren stealing from their childless aunt.

They aren't stealing as it was never the children's money in the first place.

It's really awful

fromaytobe · 18/04/2024 22:41

LindorDoubleChoc · 18/04/2024 20:06

Single parent dies. They have two children in their 60s. I'm using children in the broadest term here because obviously they are not children.

One of these has two children in their early 20s (their only grand children). The other "child" has none.

The child who has no children is pretty well off. The child with two children is not so well off (possibly because apparently it costs £180,000 per child to raise them from birth to 18).

The parent divides the will one third each to her two children, and one third for the grand children to be split 50/50 between them.

What do you think of that?

Our relative died and in her will she divided her estate equally between her three adult dc. She talked to the executors about what was in her will, and specifically said it would be unfair to include grandchildren as main beneficiaries because one of her children had three dc. It would have meant that one son and his kids would have got nearly half the entire estate.

SoupDragon · 18/04/2024 22:42

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:40

The grandchildrens' parents should give them some of their money then. Instead of the grandchildren stealing from their childless aunt.

How are they stealing exactly...? They are being given some money by their grandparent.

Twotooto · 18/04/2024 22:42

Chewbecca · 18/04/2024 22:15

If the sibling with children pre deceased the mother, would you expect their 1/3 to be split between their children?

Wouldn’t that depend on how the will is written? If 2/3 of the estate is to be divided by the children then the surviving sibling would get a full 2/3. If the grandchildren weren’t included separately they would get 100% and the grandchildren would get nothing.

chocmatcha · 18/04/2024 22:42

You have 3 apples and 4 people you'd like to give some of an apple to.
2 of them (your children) get one apple each. The other two (grandchildren) get half an apple each. The deciding factor in how many apples you get is your relationship to the apple giver in a purely logical and non emotional way.

justasking111 · 18/04/2024 22:43

I think it's lovely to help the young. The children are not in financial difficulties so why not.

We helped our children as young adults because that's when they needed it.

I intend to help my grandchildren next because their parents will inherit from a trust so they're sorted.

RadoxMoon · 18/04/2024 22:43

CallMikeBanning · 18/04/2024 21:54

The sibling with children is getting two thirds, one third directly and one third for their children.

No, both siblings are getting 1/3 So they are being treated equally, which is fair.

The gift to the grandchildren has nothing to do with them. The grandchildren are people in their own right, not extensions of their parents.

RadoxMoon · 18/04/2024 22:45

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:38

Why do childless people always get the shit end of the stick? Why should the childless chlid get less than 50% of their parents' wealth?

Both children are getting less than 50% of the parents’ wealth.

I wouldn’t see it as particularly unfair if everything except personal possessions passed straight to the grandchildren tbh, assuming both children are financially comfortable.

SoupDragon · 18/04/2024 22:46

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:38

Why do childless people always get the shit end of the stick? Why should the childless chlid get less than 50% of their parents' wealth?

What is shitty about inheriting the same amount as their sibling?

pizzaHeart · 18/04/2024 22:47

I would prefer money being split up only between children. And then each of them does whatever they want with their inheritance. From childless sibling’s pov the other sibling benefits more so the will is not entirely fair.

HcbSS · 18/04/2024 22:47

I think it's great. The grandchildren can put that money towards house deposits, higher education, bettering themselves, Most likely the adult children already have their own properties.
I do however always think each case is a world of its own. Let's imagine one of these children has given up a career to care for her mother and made sure she can tay in her own home, while the other jets off on holiday and lives her life. Would I think it unfair if the first got more in the will? No I would not.

Twotooto · 18/04/2024 22:47

Superlambaanana · 18/04/2024 22:38

Why do childless people always get the shit end of the stick? Why should the childless chlid get less than 50% of their parents' wealth?

Isn’t the shit end of the stick your parent dying rather than your parent providing an inheritance for their grandchildren?

SoupDragon · 18/04/2024 22:49

pizzaHeart · 18/04/2024 22:47

I would prefer money being split up only between children. And then each of them does whatever they want with their inheritance. From childless sibling’s pov the other sibling benefits more so the will is not entirely fair.

How does the other sibling benefit more given they are getting exactly the same amount?

TheSmallAssassin · 18/04/2024 22:50

@Superlambaanana why do you think the childless sibling is due 50% of the estate? It's such an entitled point of view. The GM has distributed the inheritance between 4 people that she loved, what's wrong with that? Would you be complaining if the GM had said she loved her grandchildren as much as her children?

In any case, the sibling isn't missing out, they are getting a lump of free money, we're all lucky to get anything at all.

SoupDragon · 18/04/2024 22:51

It's no different to each child being left 1/3 and the remaining 1/3 being split between 2 charities.

pizzaHeart · 18/04/2024 22:53

SoupDragon · 18/04/2024 22:49

How does the other sibling benefit more given they are getting exactly the same amount?

Very simple. Their children receive money so they don’t need to worry about certain things e.g
helping them with a deposit or paying for a wedding etc. I know the childless sibling doesn’t have children at all so doesn’t have this sort of worries but they might need money for help and care as they don’t have their own children to help them .

DisforDarkChocolate · 18/04/2024 22:53

I'd be fine with that, I'd love to know my nieces/nephews had a helping hand.

Fancybed · 18/04/2024 22:56

ApolloandDaphne · 18/04/2024 22:12

That's how my DM has sorted her will. Me and DB get a third each and the other third is split between 4 GC. I am much better off than my DB but that's my DMs wishes so that's how it will be done.

That's how my parents have done ti too, but there are 2 DC who have 2 GC each, so each DC and their progeny get an equal share. That's not what's proposed here.

OP knows it's not "fair" or she wouldn't have asked.

Of course the parents can do as they please, but the childless DC is getting less and will feel it.

RadoxMoon · 18/04/2024 22:57

pizzaHeart · 18/04/2024 22:53

Very simple. Their children receive money so they don’t need to worry about certain things e.g
helping them with a deposit or paying for a wedding etc. I know the childless sibling doesn’t have children at all so doesn’t have this sort of worries but they might need money for help and care as they don’t have their own children to help them .

Edited

Parents don’t have to help out with deposits and weddings.

And there’s no guarantee children will provide care to their parents, so that’s not really a difference.

I am not seeing any unfairness here. Both siblings are getting the same plus there’s a gift to presumably much-loved grandchildren. Why does it matter who the parents of said grandchildren are? The gift isn’t for them!

justasking111 · 18/04/2024 23:00

My brother and his wife are childless. Their will divides their money between their nephews and nieces.