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CF allotment thief part 2: the Battle of Barbara and the Beansprouts

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YaMuvva · 12/04/2024 10:24

Hi all, sorry I didn’t get a chance to post the link to this in the last thread, but it filled up too quickly.

So, another update

DH and I sat and had a looooong talk last night. We poured over every option, the pro’s and cons and the best and worst case scenarios. We thought of every possible situation that could arise from each option and we made a decision this morning.

it was actually the best/worst case scenario talk that clinched it.
Best case scenario for selling it to her was we get a little bit of money. Worst case is we have no allotment and the house possibly devalues.

Best case scenario for if we shared the land is that she is a pleasant plot neighbour and isn’t bitter that we are on the land that used to be ‘hers’ and doesn’t try to boss us about. But worst case scenario is that she remains bitter and makes our lives hell, interferes and our allotment space becomes an unbearable place to be.

Best case scenario for if we keep it to ourselves is we have the enjoyment of a long awaited allotment, one that makes a massive difference to DH’s MH and our general life enjoyment. Worst case scenario is that we make a neighbour - who is smart enough to find another plot or use her own generous garden - cross.

We figured that the worst case scenarios for all 3 weren’t worth risking the absolute best case scenario could bring.

So we are kicking her off.

We discussed letting her wait some months before making her leave or until the end of the growing season around about the end of September. But that when you consider the weather, that would mean we wouldn’t truly be able to enjoy the allotment in good weather for a whole year. I know it can still be enjoyed in horrible weather but the thought of missing out on a whole entire summer of gardening, relaxing and recuperating just feels too long. She has also indicated she will fight us - well she can try and she won’t win so I’d rather the ‘fight’ was a short one not a long one

We went to the plot this morning (no Babs in sight!) and took a soil test, took pictures, used that app to mark the plots (thanks to PP for the tips), and measured it and took pictures of the measurements/readings. From what we can tell she has root veg, fruit and a little herb garden patch, all growing fairly well considering the time of year. We didn’t disturb anything

Going to call the home insurers today to see if we can get legal cover and reclaim costs from the previous owner so solicitors can write her a letter - if not we will just instruct our current solicitors and make the reclaim too. I know we could do a letter ourselves but I really think a legal middle man would be worth the money. We will take solicitors advice on how much notice to give her - but it won’t be long notice. No point, may as well rip the plaster off now. We won’t be offering to buy the shed as I don’t want to be beholden to Barbara or have her make out to others that we stole the shed. We want a clean slate, to pick our own items.

I do feel bad that Barbara will be losing something that is so dear to her and that her ‘sanctuary’ will be taken away but the bottom line is it does not belong to her and she has known this for 10 years. She could have spent that 10 years, or even just the nine months since the house went on the market, to find another sanctuary. We are being selfish, we have been through unimaginable struggles and it’s time to just live for ourselves not a random neighbour. If that makes us a pariah in the community I can take it.

DH also messaged our police officer friend of ours this morning who said if the time comes to bin her stuff and dismantle the shed to call 101 and tell them “We are doing this, it’s our property and we will handle everything with care and bring it to her home” and then if she calls them saying we are stealing or damaging our property then we are one step ahead at least.

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Mikki77 · 12/04/2024 22:30

Best plan, good luck. x

YaMuvva · 12/04/2024 22:31

FunnysInLaJardin · 12/04/2024 22:30

😂have you considered adverse possession @YaMuvva

OMG no thanks hun I’ll check it out 🤣

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timenowplease · 12/04/2024 22:31

Caplin · 12/04/2024 22:30

Hmmm, I’m a woman, a busy one who has been dealing with my own shitty day, like my mum’s husband being diagnosed with advanced lung cancer this afternoon. So no, I don’t have time to read two threads. Before you are bitchy, maybe just think you don’t know who is the other side of the screen and what they are juggling.

If it had been said lots you could all carry on your Friday night drunken chat and ignore it, no need to be nasty or sarcastic. We aren’t in school anymore.

Well the exact same goes for you. You're the one calling names so wind your neck in.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

YaMuvva · 12/04/2024 22:33

TBF to everyone still saying about adverse possession - I’ve done it before where I’ve come on a large thread and made an obvious suggestion, then afterwards thought “Doh, of course someone will have said that already”. It doesn’t make anyone a bad person

@Caplin so sorry to hear about your MIL Flowers

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Caplin · 12/04/2024 22:33

timenowplease · 12/04/2024 22:31

Well the exact same goes for you. You're the one calling names so wind your neck in.

I gave a short advice post, I got a sarcastic pile on. I’m not the one who needs to wind their neck in.

myfaceismyown · 12/04/2024 22:33

Reading this I am coming down with a rather severe case of APO (adverse posession obsession) Or am I losing the plot? No, oh well, hopefully Babs is soon...

surreygirl1987 · 12/04/2024 22:34

timenowplease · 12/04/2024 22:31

Well the exact same goes for you. You're the one calling names so wind your neck in.

To be fair, she was only trying to help. I often offer advice without having read the full thread. Bit harsh to have a go at her just for trying to be nice to the OP!

surreygirl1987 · 12/04/2024 22:34

Caplin · 12/04/2024 22:33

I gave a short advice post, I got a sarcastic pile on. I’m not the one who needs to wind their neck in.

Agreed - the pile on was absolutely unnecessary and a shame, as this has been a hilariously great thread (two) otherwise!

YorkshireWelsh · 12/04/2024 22:34

YaMuvva · 12/04/2024 19:59

🤣🤣 North Yorkshire but not very far from W Yorkshire

That’s Lancashire folk for you (joking, joking, I’m from the border lands so have a soft spot for both!)!
Marvellous, reckon you’re not far from me - sign me up for the celebratory allotment warning party!

Dexterrolledoffthesofa · 12/04/2024 22:35

timenowplease · 12/04/2024 21:24

This is definitely going to make the papers. Might I suggest some film titles?

Allotment of Greed

Cultivating Evil

Plot Twist

Resident Weevil

Mumtobabyhavoc · 12/04/2024 22:35

FunnysInLaJardin · 12/04/2024 22:30

😂have you considered adverse possession @YaMuvva

@YaMuvva perhaps looking into adverse possession would be helpful? 💡

FunnysInLaJardin · 12/04/2024 22:36

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/04/2024 21:08

Sarah Lancashire is 59. What if she plays Barbara?

No, Sarah Lancashire can only play one character ever, like all the other soap to ITV actresses.

Whoever plays the roles here needs to be decent. Reece Shearsmith and Dianne Morgan would be excellent

timenowplease · 12/04/2024 22:36

surreygirl1987 · 12/04/2024 22:34

To be fair, she was only trying to help. I often offer advice without having read the full thread. Bit harsh to have a go at her just for trying to be nice to the OP!

I didn't have a go at her. She called someone a bitch.

Dexterrolledoffthesofa · 12/04/2024 22:37

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saraclara · 12/04/2024 22:38

timenowplease · 12/04/2024 22:36

I didn't have a go at her. She called someone a bitch.

Can you draw a line under this, please? We're supposed to be having fun here

MonsteraMama · 12/04/2024 22:38

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No, you've done a pretty good job of that too Confused I don't think saying "don't post advice if you haven't read the full thread" is particularly bitchy, but I apologise if I've upset you by saying it. Bit unnecessary to call me a bitch for it though.

Zyq · 12/04/2024 22:39

YaMuvva · 12/04/2024 21:45

Let’s be ambitious. Imagine…a West End Musical! songs likes “Carrots mean more me to me than carats” “You bet, courgette” “Plotting my life” “The allotment means Alott to me”

What a shame Victoria Wood's not around, she'd do a perfect script for that.

EnglishBluebell · 12/04/2024 22:40

I'm staggered that your police officer friend said that because if you call 101 and say that to them they'll laugh and politely hang up!

Happinessisamyth · 12/04/2024 22:40

Cristall · 12/04/2024 22:35

Havent rtft but this belongs here.

Maybe the show needs to be an epic Wagnerian opera?

Das Rhubarb Barbarian

Raindancer411 · 12/04/2024 22:40

Can someone share the main link please. I cannot seem to find it, even using search. Thanks

Caplin · 12/04/2024 22:40

MonsteraMama · 12/04/2024 22:38

No, you've done a pretty good job of that too Confused I don't think saying "don't post advice if you haven't read the full thread" is particularly bitchy, but I apologise if I've upset you by saying it. Bit unnecessary to call me a bitch for it though.

Maybe if you hadn’t added ‘you make yourself look dim’ at the end of that sentence then it wouldn’t have merited being called out.

Merrymouse · 12/04/2024 22:41

Zyq · 12/04/2024 22:27

How can there be any "moral" side to whether someone does or does not own their land? If I came along and asserted a moral claim to your house, would you just meekly get out and leave it to me?

And no need to hide the land - just transfer ownership before selling the house.

Its not reasonable to suggest that somebody who is literally selling a house is somehow unaware of the concept of legally transferring ownership of land.

YaMuvva · 12/04/2024 22:41

timenowplease · 12/04/2024 22:36

I didn't have a go at her. She called someone a bitch.

At the risk of sounding like a child - that person called her a twat first

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Zyq · 12/04/2024 22:41

Caplin · 12/04/2024 21:51

I couldn’t be bothered to see if this point has already been made, but if Barbara has been on the land for 10-12 years or more she could claim the land, in which case could argue it should never have been sold to you. It is the law of adverse possession.

No, she couldn't. The clue's in the word "adverse". That argument only works if you've effectively taken the land and the owner hasn't noticed. If the owner actually agrees to you using the land, then you have a licence which can be terminated at any time and your possession is not adverse.

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