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Brexit fail

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smellslikecinnamon · 11/04/2024 18:28

Quelle surprise

www.economist.com/britain/2024/04/11/why-most-people-regret-brexit

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3luckystars · 14/04/2024 11:11

Don’t be looking back.
People were TRICKED, there is absolutely no point in trying to point and blame for people who didn’t have any idea what they were voting for.
you all voted on the dark.

You are getting nowhere with this ‘see I TOLD you!!‘ carry on. Nobody knew what was going to happen.
You are never ever going to get out of the mess if you don’t accept that and move on, without blame and look to the future and how to fix it now.

Geebray · 14/04/2024 11:16

Remainers often seem to assume that people wanted to Brexit for only one reason. There were quite a few of us who saw the direction the EU was taking - increased federalism, two tier system for those who are in the Euro zone and those not, tied to failing states like Greece - but no, we're all racist, xenophobic "little Englanders", apparently 🙄

I wasn't tricked into voting for Brexit. Many people weren't.

3luckystars · 14/04/2024 11:19

Ok, my sister would also agree with you but what I meant was that squabbling over what is done, is pointless now. Nobody actually knew what was going to happen.
It would be better to focus on the future now.

Medschoolmum · 14/04/2024 11:27

3luckystars · 14/04/2024 11:11

Don’t be looking back.
People were TRICKED, there is absolutely no point in trying to point and blame for people who didn’t have any idea what they were voting for.
you all voted on the dark.

You are getting nowhere with this ‘see I TOLD you!!‘ carry on. Nobody knew what was going to happen.
You are never ever going to get out of the mess if you don’t accept that and move on, without blame and look to the future and how to fix it now.

Lots of people did know what was going to happen, though. Lots of people tried to warn about what was going to happen. Some people chose to ignore the warnings and believe the nonsense that they saw on the side of a bus instead.

I do absolutely accept that some of the electorate lacked the intelligence and critical thinking skills to be able to analyse the arguments on either side, and I don't blame them for that. Those people will inevitably be susceptible to soundbites and it isn't their fault.

However, I believe that many people who did have the capability to make an informed and considered decision chose instead to bury their heads in the sand and ignore the warnings because they preferred the other narrative. Either they couldn't be bothered to engage and think about the issues at all, or wishful thinking caused them to close their minds to the opposite point of view.

The question shouldn't ever have been put to the electorate in my view, and I blame Cameron for this more than I blame an ignorant and disengaged electorate. We are where we are, now, and we all have to suffer the consequences of the terrible decisions that people made at that time. But I think it's natural for people to feel anger towards the Brexit voters who helped to create the mess that we're now in... if they had educated themselves a bit more before the referendum, or stayed at home on polling day if they couldn't be arsed to educate themselves, then we wouldn't be in the state that we're in now.

I think it's very hard for the younger generation. My dd is now an adult but she was a child when the referendum happened, so she didn't have the opportunity to vote on the issue. It's only now that she is starting to fully understand what she has lost as a result of the poor decisions of the generations above her. It feels very unfair.

Instantcustard · 14/04/2024 14:39

I agree @Medschoolmum . I have no ill feelings towards those who genuinely thought Brexit was a good idea but I know Brexit supporters who immediately regretted it and said they did it "to send a message" or some other inane reason.

OpenWife · 06/07/2024 03:27

I voted for Brexit for the following reasons.

1 the democratic deficit

2 the risk that Europe could move to the far right partly as a backlash against the bloc (proved correct already) and it was better to be out before further integration.
(The combination of 1 and 2 is very dangerous)

3 the risk that the Eastern border created by the EU could cause hostility. Correct - the Crimea invasion coincided with popular support for EU membership. We are now facing possible ww3.

4 that leaving the EU could create a more diverse immigration picture in place or a white European bias. Correct.

I never thought leaving the EU would reduce immigration numbers. Correct.

I did think there would be economic disruption short-term.

I'm not anti-European. And I don't want the empire back.

Not all leavers fit the stereotype. My research included reading history, economics and listening to the frankly more intelligent debates which took place around the common market.

I didn't think the wording on the bus was a promise. This is because I can read.

Most of my friends were remainers. I don't think they're idiots.

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