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'Call Centre Culture'

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Winterysun · 06/04/2024 09:43

This is a term I've heard fairly recently, and when I think of the big call centre I worked in for some years, from my early to late 20's, I really think I was a victim of it.

This was over 25 years ago, and looking back I don't know how I went in every day, often feeling ill with anxiety but I somehow did! I'm in a totally different job now, working with lovely people. These are some of the things I experienced: For those of you in Call Centre type jobs now, does this still happen?

  • mimicked for my quiet voice, and often snapped at if I had to ask something.
  • A young lad once came over to my desk and asked me in a loud, booming voice if I agree that footballers shouldn't have sex the night before a match - I think I squirmed with embarrassment and our whole department burst out laughing.
  • There was a woman in our department (mid-30's who would have known better) who sometimes laughed hysterically if my partner (now my dh!) came over from the adjoining office to see me, or she sat smirking while we talked. I started going to see him instead, his department weren't like this!
  • Her friend once asked me in front of our whole section why I was so quiet, mimicked my voice and basically humiliated me in front of the other 6 people on our table. I went home that evening feeling broken.
  • Another of her group once called me 'nice but dim' in front of everyone, cue peals of laughter. I'm not 'dim', I went to Grammar School, they just crippled me with anxiety.

Back then there was a Personnel Dept, but some of them were friends with the 'ringleaders' so I didn't feel I could put a complaint in. I think I would now, I'm still fairly quiet but more assertive!

I did make some friends there, (fellow 'quietish ones'), a few of who I'm still in touch with. They didn't get treated like that though! I think partly these memories have been triggered by a party I went ti recently, and 2 of these women happened to be there. Surprisingly they were lovely to me (they're now about 60, 10 years older than me). They've obvs mellowed with age, I wish I'd gad the courage to mention how they made me feel back then, but it wasn't the tine or the place!

Have any of you experienced this type of behaviour in this line of work?

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WelshNerd · 06/04/2024 09:58

Yes, in some ways it was like an extra 6 years of school with so much bullying and gossip.

queenrowling · 06/04/2024 10:01

yea, I experienced the same.
What confuses me massively is that many of my ex colleagues are on facebook, some
nice, some not so nice. And they talk about their time there (late nineties on) with nothing but fondness, best years ever etc. And they talk about the managers, who were two of the meanest, most spiteful managers ever, as if they were superhero's. Odd.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/04/2024 10:02

Its not just call centres but many offices that are like that

Snoopystick · 06/04/2024 10:04

One of our team got a promotion and two others loudly talked about how she would fail, she’d got above herself etc etc. When I told them to stop being so bitchy was told that I was immature. Some horrible people but I’ve also made a friend for life from that job.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 06/04/2024 10:05

Is this not just a case of, some people are dicks even at work, rather than call centre specific? I did a fair few years in a bank call centre and there was generally a great sense of work camaraderie

Winterysun · 06/04/2024 10:27

It may happen in offices in general, yes it may not be linked to just call centres.

And yes, I'm part of a Facebook reunion group as this company closed down many years ago. A lot of people say frequently that no work place has ever matched up to our old one, some have said it was such a fun environment it didn't feel work, the togetherness, supportiveness and lifetime friendships formed. (I've also formed lifetime friendships from it, so am grateful for those)!

There were actually times it could feel the best place ever to work, when your face fitted and things went well, but all that could change in a day! Also I've always been the type to have to concentrate if I'm doing something, some of the more technical parts of the job were challenging for me so it would be impossible for me to sit chatting while working on these. I'd then overhear 'Oh doesn't she look SERIOUS! If I got something wrong I'd be yelled at across the office though (person who was supposed to train me couldn't be bothered) so I really couldn't win!

If I did join in with the chat I'd often be made fun of.

I think you have to be a certain type of person to fit in somewhere like that.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 06/04/2024 10:32

Thnkfully me, my OH and immediate family have never done facebook and better off without it

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 06/04/2024 10:36

I think you have to be a certain type of person to fit in somewhere like that.

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Depends what you mean by fit in though. I went to work in a CC virtually straight from almost failing A Alevels and never intended to stay. I think it's an environment where recruitment is done en masse and certainly back in the 90s typically we hired lots of young people, students to so I guess you are likely to have many fairly immature, first job types so that is a factor.

I just got my head down, actively looked for stuff to do during quiet times and didn't go out of my way to be over social. I was excellent at my job and often trained new members so that gave me an "in" with most people without having to be their mate IYSWIM? So I was able to have a bit of chit chat but keep my distance.

I met my still married to, DH there and did love the job and the other career opportunities it gave me so am a bit biased Grin

Winterysun · 06/04/2024 11:03

You sound similar to me, 'telmewhenthespaceship'!

I met my dh about a year before I started in the Call Centre, when I was already working for this company but on the reception desk. This was by far a much easier job, and with 3 others who were slightly older, so no bitchiness at all! The Call Centre job was a promotion I went for.

Although some aspects of the new job were hard for me (reflected of course with better pay!), I found newer staff members used to seek me out to help them/explain things. Two of these resulted in friendships I still have today!

So there were pros & cons, socially and technically a bit out of my comfort zone, but in the long-run did me some favours too. In fact in one of my appraisals I was told I was doing well, but possibly needed a quieter environment to work in! Someone I still see occasionally says her memories of the place are mostly hungover ones, coming in after a heavy night and somehow muddling through!

That job really took all my focus, I guess some found it easy though!

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queenrowling · 06/04/2024 12:50

Winterysun · 06/04/2024 10:27

It may happen in offices in general, yes it may not be linked to just call centres.

And yes, I'm part of a Facebook reunion group as this company closed down many years ago. A lot of people say frequently that no work place has ever matched up to our old one, some have said it was such a fun environment it didn't feel work, the togetherness, supportiveness and lifetime friendships formed. (I've also formed lifetime friendships from it, so am grateful for those)!

There were actually times it could feel the best place ever to work, when your face fitted and things went well, but all that could change in a day! Also I've always been the type to have to concentrate if I'm doing something, some of the more technical parts of the job were challenging for me so it would be impossible for me to sit chatting while working on these. I'd then overhear 'Oh doesn't she look SERIOUS! If I got something wrong I'd be yelled at across the office though (person who was supposed to train me couldn't be bothered) so I really couldn't win!

If I did join in with the chat I'd often be made fun of.

I think you have to be a certain type of person to fit in somewhere like that.

did we work together? 🤣🤣

isitbananatimealready · 06/04/2024 12:57

I've only had a distant brush with call-centre type work. I was called in as a freelance to sort out some stuff in their finance section, and was in a different office to the actuall call centre team. From what I experienced though, some of them were real bitches. There was a lot of whispering and sniping between cliques about other team members. Really toxic environment.
She didn't recognise me, but one of the staff was an absolute cow, who had been thoroughly obnoxious to my dd when they had been at the same dance school years before.

Icannoteven · 06/04/2024 13:31

I worked in an awful call centre between 2011 and 2017. The culture was awful and boy do I have some stories to share (which are probably incredibly outing). Examples I have witnessed over the years:

A lot of my colleagues were hidden homeless due to our low wages

W were not protected from abusive customers. We constantly were dealing with angry, sweary, nasty, abusive customers. I have been threatened with death, assault and rape more times than I can count. I’ve also had whistles blown down the phone, customers coughing down the phone and just generally been exposed to audiological shock on a daily basis. I am now moderately deaf in one ear.

Toilet breaks were timed to the second.

Disciplinary if you spent more than 15 minutes in ‘comfort break’ per day (this includes the time it takes to get too and from the toilet and is regardless of any medical conditions).

Disciplinary meetings any time you were off sick. People sacked for being sick.

My HR department trying to refuse to pay for time off for ante natal appointments

Call centre manager phoning me while at an antenatal appointment , screaming down the phone because I wasn’t back when expected (I had been diagnosed with a serious complication).

A colleague being refused the same hours in return from maternity leave as she was a mother now and wouldn’t cope 🙄 (she was doing night shift, her partner was working day shift).

Huge drug and smoking culture. Everyone off their face constantly. People doing coke in the lifts, managers trading codeine and colleagues falling asleep at their desks while high. Oh yeah, at one time we were running the governments ‘talk to Frank’ phone line. There was a good reason our staff were so knowledgeable about drugs.

Breaching of political rules. At one point we were manning the electoral commission helpline, just before the election. The same staff were used for a supposedly politically neutral polling campaign which turned out to be funded by the TORY PARTY.

Staff being replaced by agency staff so could be laid off at short notice. Those staff being replaced by ‘apprentices’ who could legally be paid less.

Staff working for multiple companies at the same time (while contracted to one company at a time).

We did e-reception and sales for multiple nursing home groups. Did you know that if you call a four seasons, barchester or carehomes.co.uk home you are not speaking to a person at the home? When you call to find out about a care home space/book a visit, our job was to get as much info as possible out of you as possible regarding your relatives needs and wishes so the care home manager could use this info to ‘sell’ you a space harder?

I can’t end this post without mentioning readers digest. Readers digest are such a corrupt, morally bankrupt company that even the shit show contact centre I worked for refused their business after our initial contract was up. The way they exploit the elderly and actively encourage harsh selling practices to those they KNOW do not have capacity is disgusting. Also, when someone calls to ask for account closure because their relative is dead, the system has a little gravestone emoji that you click on to mark that the customer is dead 🤢There is a reason they make even the lowliest of staff sign an NDA (I don’t care about breaking my NDA, sue me 😂).

Luckily, the call centre I worked for no longer operates in this country, the implementation of gdpr finished them off (since their whole business, despite the pretence of customer service, was to take and sell customer information).

On the whole, call centres are awful. They are awful for the staff, awful for the companies they serve and awful for the customer. Very exploitative, lawless places. They need regulating and they need unions!

BabyBoyBeautiful · 06/04/2024 13:32

Most offices including call centres are very much 'if your face fits' places.
I have worked in some where I slotted in straight away and loved it and others that I walked out of after three months as I just didn't gel with the other employees 🤷‍♀️
It isn't necessarily a bad thing, we spend a lot of time with our colleagues and it's best to find a place that you fit rather than being a square peg in a round hole!
I will probably get slated for saying this but we have had new hires where I work at the moment that we could just tell wouldn't last five minutes, and they never did. There was nothing wrong with them and nothing wrong with us, they just didn't fit the culture.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 06/04/2024 13:59

Winterysun · 06/04/2024 11:03

You sound similar to me, 'telmewhenthespaceship'!

I met my dh about a year before I started in the Call Centre, when I was already working for this company but on the reception desk. This was by far a much easier job, and with 3 others who were slightly older, so no bitchiness at all! The Call Centre job was a promotion I went for.

Although some aspects of the new job were hard for me (reflected of course with better pay!), I found newer staff members used to seek me out to help them/explain things. Two of these resulted in friendships I still have today!

So there were pros & cons, socially and technically a bit out of my comfort zone, but in the long-run did me some favours too. In fact in one of my appraisals I was told I was doing well, but possibly needed a quieter environment to work in! Someone I still see occasionally says her memories of the place are mostly hungover ones, coming in after a heavy night and somehow muddling through!

That job really took all my focus, I guess some found it easy though!

I do remember it having an active social element, back in the days of everyone heading out to the pub on a Friday lunchtime Grin and yes people battling through calls whilst horribly hungover!

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 06/04/2024 14:03

Icannoteven · 06/04/2024 13:31

I worked in an awful call centre between 2011 and 2017. The culture was awful and boy do I have some stories to share (which are probably incredibly outing). Examples I have witnessed over the years:

A lot of my colleagues were hidden homeless due to our low wages

W were not protected from abusive customers. We constantly were dealing with angry, sweary, nasty, abusive customers. I have been threatened with death, assault and rape more times than I can count. I’ve also had whistles blown down the phone, customers coughing down the phone and just generally been exposed to audiological shock on a daily basis. I am now moderately deaf in one ear.

Toilet breaks were timed to the second.

Disciplinary if you spent more than 15 minutes in ‘comfort break’ per day (this includes the time it takes to get too and from the toilet and is regardless of any medical conditions).

Disciplinary meetings any time you were off sick. People sacked for being sick.

My HR department trying to refuse to pay for time off for ante natal appointments

Call centre manager phoning me while at an antenatal appointment , screaming down the phone because I wasn’t back when expected (I had been diagnosed with a serious complication).

A colleague being refused the same hours in return from maternity leave as she was a mother now and wouldn’t cope 🙄 (she was doing night shift, her partner was working day shift).

Huge drug and smoking culture. Everyone off their face constantly. People doing coke in the lifts, managers trading codeine and colleagues falling asleep at their desks while high. Oh yeah, at one time we were running the governments ‘talk to Frank’ phone line. There was a good reason our staff were so knowledgeable about drugs.

Breaching of political rules. At one point we were manning the electoral commission helpline, just before the election. The same staff were used for a supposedly politically neutral polling campaign which turned out to be funded by the TORY PARTY.

Staff being replaced by agency staff so could be laid off at short notice. Those staff being replaced by ‘apprentices’ who could legally be paid less.

Staff working for multiple companies at the same time (while contracted to one company at a time).

We did e-reception and sales for multiple nursing home groups. Did you know that if you call a four seasons, barchester or carehomes.co.uk home you are not speaking to a person at the home? When you call to find out about a care home space/book a visit, our job was to get as much info as possible out of you as possible regarding your relatives needs and wishes so the care home manager could use this info to ‘sell’ you a space harder?

I can’t end this post without mentioning readers digest. Readers digest are such a corrupt, morally bankrupt company that even the shit show contact centre I worked for refused their business after our initial contract was up. The way they exploit the elderly and actively encourage harsh selling practices to those they KNOW do not have capacity is disgusting. Also, when someone calls to ask for account closure because their relative is dead, the system has a little gravestone emoji that you click on to mark that the customer is dead 🤢There is a reason they make even the lowliest of staff sign an NDA (I don’t care about breaking my NDA, sue me 😂).

Luckily, the call centre I worked for no longer operates in this country, the implementation of gdpr finished them off (since their whole business, despite the pretence of customer service, was to take and sell customer information).

On the whole, call centres are awful. They are awful for the staff, awful for the companies they serve and awful for the customer. Very exploitative, lawless places. They need regulating and they need unions!

That made extremely grim reading Confused

Winterysun · 06/04/2024 22:00

It really did! 😮

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