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You are being lied to. This is the reality our doctors are facing. Please share this everywhere and raise awareness before we have no doctors left!
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You would be right to be scared!

It’s caused raising awareness!
Yes of course Drs make mistakes but who is more likely to make a mistake someone with 2 years of fairly basic training or someone with 5 years in depth training.
i can make this point as often as I see fit, it’s not for you to try to dictate who can post about a topic and how often!

The ACP at my parent’s GP surgery has been amazing. Picked up on stuff which was repeatedly missed / ignored by the GPs (including sepsis and necrotic digits) and always follows up with stuff when he says he will (making sure the right tests are done the right time to allow chemo to go ahead) . They will always ask to see the ACP first now.

Im sure that there are issues with the rollout and ACPs need to be registered and be open about their role but much of the variation in care is about the individual in my opinion.

Is an ACP the same as a PA?

Just googled. Not the same thing at all. ACPs are qualified, experienced nurses/ physios/ or other HCPs who then do a further masters degree. Therefore I would expect them to be fantastic.

A family friend is a PA. I also questioned how she managed to become one as she doesn’t seem intelligent at all. I happened to see her last night at a party, that I had to leave after a couple of hours as DS was at home and suddenly developed a fever and was vomiting. She told me it sounds like tonsillitis…

My experience with her just makes me question the whole PA system.

However, I did have an AA during my c section and I can’t see what the issue is. The consultant anaesthetist was still there and did all the work - he was simply helping her. AA’s will be assisting rather than performing.

I'm very concerned about this too. In some trusts they are 100% being used in posts where it is nationally promised that they won't be. That was reported recently in the Guardian, I think. Currently, a poor junior doctor has to sign off their prescriptions, without the time to check their work as well as their own (because the PA has already replaced the other doctor in the team). This is on top of the workload currently bewailed everywhere.

I read somewhere -possibly on here-that the USA have them, and that it would be very helpful to privatisation plans to have them in the uk.

Those in power are diluting the quality of health care for the majority whilst of course they will pay privately or use influence for themselves.

You will read that PAs only do this that or the other. In some cases true. But not in others and the dam is about to burst, as they are flooding the NHS.

I am related to qualified doctors, and they are extremely worried about the future for patients, and the sheer range of possible conditions or issues that PAs will not have the skills and knowledge to spot.

How do they know to recognise when to seek advice? Often they won't. Look up the Dunning Kruger effect, which is used in medical schools.

I suspect it will be similar to the role of TA - they were originally promised to just be a helping hand in class, doing the stuff a teacher is too busy to do or being a responsible adult whilst the teacher has to pop out of the classroom for a minute. Many teachers at the time were very resistant to this and were dismissed as being unreasonable for being concerned about what could happen to children's education, as they suspected it was going to end up with TAs teaching classes for extended periods - and also when Cover Supervisors were brought in rather than all Supply Staff being qualified teachers.

Now, TAs and Cover Supervisors have ended up as the only class teacher for entire terms, doing pretty much everything a qualified teacher does. Because they're cheap and there's no protection in the way that the teaching pay and conditions contract offers.

I hope that I will always be in a position to know exactly who I'm dealing with, but unfortunately, I think that at some point, it will be like Education and any body in the surgery/hospital will be better than nobody.

I suspect so too. What an utter tragedy.

I have had an experience with a PA when I went to with a gynaecological issue.
They introduced themselves as a PA and asked the GP to come in and assess me.
No problem with them at all.
I didn’t feel that I was lied to.