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74% of school staff have considered leaving this year

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NorthernGirlie · 16/03/2024 19:17

Almost three-quarters of school staff (74 per cent) say that they considered leaving education completely over the last 12 months, an annual Tes survey reveals.

Moat threads about schools have responses like "All of my immediate family are teachers and love it"

I've taught for 20+ years - always enjoyed but even I'd like to leave now.

Unless there's a huge wedge of money thrown at local authorities very soon so they can
*Improve staffing ratios
*Support SEN kids in appropriate settings
*Pay aupport staff the money they deserve

we're screwed.
https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/school-staff-views-wellbeing-revealed-survey?fbclid=IwAR0c2Ecyzx-iBjyCaaxDqAkod9Mml8TaWGEi8T4d-qGUB67uETPqraByBwM

Teachers’ views on wellbeing revealed in new survey

The latest Tes Schools Wellbeing Report, released this morning, highlights school staff’s opinions on workload, funding and confidence in their roles

https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/school-staff-views-wellbeing-revealed-survey?fbclid=IwAR0c2Ecyzx-iBjyCaaxDqAkod9Mml8TaWGEi8T4d-qGUB67uETPqraByBwM

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Theedgeoftheabyss · 16/03/2024 19:29

I defy any adult to step into the average classroom and tell me the system is working. It isn't.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 16/03/2024 19:31

Yep I agree and can totally believe that statistic

Pieceofpurplesky · 16/03/2024 19:34

24 years and u go at Easter. Love the teaching and the kids it's the micromanaging and constant blame game alongside the pointless paperwork that have finished me off.

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MumofSpud · 16/03/2024 19:35

I gave in my notice last week!

NorthernGirlie · 16/03/2024 19:35

Our turnover is ridiculous. I'm sick of having to show new staff "our ways" only for them to leave again - it's relentless

My son is in year 7 and has endless supply teachers

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Butteredtoast55 · 16/03/2024 19:37

I can completely believe this. The state we are in is dreadful and a national disgrace. Funding is beyond awful and staff are dealing with more issues and higher levels of need than ever before.
What is expected of school staff today goes way beyond what is reasonable and prevents them from doing a job they love.

Greycheck · 16/03/2024 19:39

I can completely believe it and I only see schools as a parent rather than a member of staff.

The whole system needs radical change. Seeing how secondary school completely destroyed my daughter until I pulled her out at 15 and being introduced to a thriving home school community, I can see why more and more are choosing that option where they can. The whole system is broken.

NorthernGirlie · 16/03/2024 19:57

I feel that if I'd gone down a different path ( wish I had) I'd be better at it after 20 odd years (I've never failed a lesson observation yet) but in my job I feel like I have to fight harder every year to be even half decent at it

I feel like if I'd gone into book keeping or accountancy I'd be able to do it with my eyes shut after this long!

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itsgettingweird · 16/03/2024 20:10

Theedgeoftheabyss · 16/03/2024 19:29

I defy any adult to step into the average classroom and tell me the system is working. It isn't.

Agree.

Same with walking into any GP surgery.
Walking into a hospital.
Walking into a supermarket (you can't get out because the doors are all now slow to prevent shoplifting.
Trying to travel on public transport.

Public services have been broken. I feel sorry for everyone but our poor youth of today aren't even getting an education to support them into adulthood either.

Theonlypot · 16/03/2024 20:12

I can’t believe it’s 74%, I would’ve guessed much higher. I don’t know how any teachers are left.

NorthernGirlie · 16/03/2024 20:16

I'm clinging on because I like the teaching side (although it's hard - teenagers are brutal these days)

I don't suffer many behaviour problems because I'm older and I've honed my trade - I've had the odd kick off (deprived area, hormonal teens) but generally I know the triggers etc.

I have a couple of colleagues who are similar, some who should have gone years ago and are absolutely broken, some who feel they're too old to retrain...

We can't run on new, inexperienced staff. We just can't!

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WhyDoIWorkInASchool · 16/03/2024 20:16

Honestly OP, it's dreadful and I am not even slightly surprised that the percentage is so high.

I work as support staff in a school that was hit hard by RAAC - as in over half of our building is currently closed. We have temporary buildings but it is so hard working in the conditions that we are in.

The only thing keeping me from quitting is the knowledge that in September the RAAC will have been 'shored up' and so we can get back into our building/classrooms.

I don't know if it will make enough of a difference to have our school back - we are ridiculously understaffed and morale is on the floor, but in all good conscience I can't walk away until I've seen how I feel after a term 'back to normal' site wise.

I used to love my job, now it's something I dread each day, the only things that keep me going are my close colleagues and the kids. I work over and above my contracted hours - as does everyone in my school, but at some point we will all reach burnout. Everyone I work closely with has considered leaving, more than once.

It's a very sorry state of affairs that education is in in this country."
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2chocolateoranges · 16/03/2024 20:17

I’m not surprised by that figure, the way some children speak to adults in my early years centre is atrocious! Some parents aren’t better with how they speak to the staff.

also there is lack of money to help support ASN children too.

a friends son did his teaching placement in high school and he said he doesn’t want to do teaching anymore as some pupils are so rude! He’s due to graduate this year and feel stuck about what he wants to do now,

Whatelsecouldibecalled · 16/03/2024 20:17

I can believe it. I was 14 years in the job. Handed notice in in October with no job to go to. I just couldn't do it anymore. Total burnout. I'm three months into my new job out of teaching and I bloody love it. I've found me again. I'm a 100 times better mother to my children and wife to my husband and friend. I have time to look after me and my family properly. I'm thanked at work for doing a good job. I can drink a hot cup of tea. I'm trusted to make decisions and implement them with no one telling me how to do it better with no evidence. No one has told me to fuck off yet which was a daily occurrence. The list is endless!!

WhyDoIWorkInASchool · 16/03/2024 20:17

Please excuse the end of that post, Ddog jumped on top of me!

Hedgerow2 · 16/03/2024 20:17

Only 74%?

savoycabbage · 16/03/2024 20:21

I believe it.

I've been doing supply for seven years. It used to be covering for illness and training but now it's walking in to disaster zones and getting through the day.

sakura06 · 16/03/2024 20:34

Education (and all public services) are in such a mess. It's heartbreaking. We've had redundancies at our school this year already because the DfE miscalculated the funding and haven't given schools much extra money for staff pay rises. Extra students will be recruited to try to help the financial situation but this puts a massive marking burden on staff. It's grim.

CosplayQueen · 16/03/2024 20:46

I'm mid 40s and leaving teaching at Easter, used to love it but it's been slowly killing me so I'm leaving even though I have nothing to go to.

Hatty65 · 16/03/2024 20:50

I've taught for almost 30 years (secondary, HoD). I love it.

But I'm currently off sick with chronic fatigue and I'm burned out. I will be leaving teaching altogether at the end of this current year. I can't do this any longer - it's affecting my health too badly.

I still love the kids, but the workload is ridiculous and unsustainable.

xsquared · 16/03/2024 20:54

I'm not surprised. Two of our members have already left and still haven't been replaced. Supply has been shortlived or they simply haven't turned up.
Classes have been redistributed for at least the 4th time this academic year.

It's shambolic.

ZipZapZoom · 16/03/2024 20:55

I'm genuinely surprised it's not higher to be honest.

I'm supply and in the last year I've seen a HUGE increase in staff asking me questions about working on supply and looking to move in that direction as they still love the job but are struggling.

The atmosphere in most of the schools I teach in these days is so demoralizing.

folkjournals · 16/03/2024 20:58

NorthernGirlie · 16/03/2024 19:57

I feel that if I'd gone down a different path ( wish I had) I'd be better at it after 20 odd years (I've never failed a lesson observation yet) but in my job I feel like I have to fight harder every year to be even half decent at it

I feel like if I'd gone into book keeping or accountancy I'd be able to do it with my eyes shut after this long!

I feel like if I'd gone into book keeping or accountancy I'd be able to do it with my eyes shut after this long!

The words of someone who's not heard of basis period reform or making tax digital.

If you don't like people nitpicking everything you do, you would not enjoy accountancy.

The grass isn't always greener.

Dilysthemilk · 16/03/2024 20:59

The battle is getting overwhelming. I feel like austerity from 2017 onwards is hitting hard now in terms of the needs the children present with. And we can’t get them help because there are no services to get help from. I’m a social worker, housing officer, psychologist, counsellor, support worker - all rolled into one.

MrsKeats · 16/03/2024 21:00

Literally counting the days till I retire.