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Is this just a rat? (Don’t open if you don’t like rats)

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Era · 11/03/2024 16:54

This chubby little thing was happily pottering around today by a lakeside. I thought it was a rat but it had a really flat face and was chubby and very furry. Is it just a fat rat or is it something else?

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Hedgesfullofbirds · 11/03/2024 21:07

A water vole it is not! The coat is agouti coloured and not dark enough for a water vole and the tail is far too long, scaly and not fur covered as it would be if it were a water vole. It is a brown rat, despite the fact that the picture makes its snout look short and blunt. Its body posture and legs also clearly identify it as a brown rat

PleaseStopEatingMyStuff · 11/03/2024 21:07

If rats were that cute I wouldn't mind them pottering around under my bird table....
I'm voting for chubby Water Vole too.

Lucanus · 11/03/2024 21:16

LuluBlakey1 · 11/03/2024 20:34

Water voles have longer tails. They use them swimming.

Tail is too long even for water vole, and the ears are too prominent. It's a rat.

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Lucanus · 11/03/2024 21:19

Looking again at the photo, I think the rat's nose is hidden under a dead leaf or something. That's why it looks a bit unusual. It's clearly still a rat though.

TheSpottedZebra · 11/03/2024 21:21

Also utterly sure it's not a water vole.
It's a rat. The feet, the colour, the ears, the tail.... The location and feeding behaviour.

takemeawayagain · 11/03/2024 21:31

The face of a water vole and tail of a rat. If that's a rat it's the cutest one I've ever seen.

ZebraTree · 11/03/2024 21:34

Cuuute

WoodBurningStov · 11/03/2024 21:40

Definitely a water vole

Kindofcrunchy · 11/03/2024 21:44

It's very cute whatever it is 😍

Era · 11/03/2024 21:44

Lucanus · 11/03/2024 21:19

Looking again at the photo, I think the rat's nose is hidden under a dead leaf or something. That's why it looks a bit unusual. It's clearly still a rat though.

It isn’t the best photo but I promise you it had a flatter face and smaller nose than any rat I’ve ever seen.

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ErrolTheDragon · 11/03/2024 21:53

Lucanus · 11/03/2024 21:19

Looking again at the photo, I think the rat's nose is hidden under a dead leaf or something. That's why it looks a bit unusual. It's clearly still a rat though.

I think it's got a very muddy nose.

Not just a rat, but .... a dirty rat!Grin

ALongHardWinter · 11/03/2024 21:59

Looks like a vole (water rat).

Magicpaintbrush · 11/03/2024 23:00

I keep rats as pets and I can tell you categorically that the animal in that photo is 1000% NOT a rat. Those saying it's a rat are absolutely wrong. The head, body shape and tail are completely wrong for a rat. I have two rats sitting in the same room as me right now and they look nothing like the animal in that photo.

It's a vole - very clearly.

VelvetandLace · 11/03/2024 23:25

Could it be an escaped degus?

Hedgesfullofbirds · 11/03/2024 23:26

It categorically is not a vole - the tail alone is a dead giveaway - it is far too long and hairless to be that of a vole, the coat colouring is wrong, the body shape and posture are wrong, everything about it screams brown rat not watervole

Lucanus · 11/03/2024 23:32

@Magicpaintbrush and everyone else who thinks this is a vole - why don't you post a link to a photo of a water vole with a tail this long? It's equal to the head + body length. Likewise for the obvious ears - fur-covered in water vole.

This is also classic rat behaviour, and not at all what you would expect from a water vole.

anunlikelyseahorse · 12/03/2024 01:09

Roughly how many inches do you think it was OP? Because it's impossible to know its size by the photo. But I think that's probably a young rat, not yet fully grown, which is why it's causing some confusion.

SpringtimeBunny · 12/03/2024 01:10

He's adorable whoever he is! Or she

SpringtimeBunny · 12/03/2024 01:20

That is a Degu! Someone's escaped pet Degu

Era · 12/03/2024 06:27

anunlikelyseahorse · 12/03/2024 01:09

Roughly how many inches do you think it was OP? Because it's impossible to know its size by the photo. But I think that's probably a young rat, not yet fully grown, which is why it's causing some confusion.

If that was a baby rat then it was going to be a bloody enormous rat once fully grown. It was big. I’ll ask dh whether he took a photo

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Hedgesfullofbirds · 12/03/2024 06:27

Not a degu - the ears are too short and, once again, the tail is far too long and not haiir covered.

Era · 12/03/2024 06:28

Era · 12/03/2024 06:27

If that was a baby rat then it was going to be a bloody enormous rat once fully grown. It was big. I’ll ask dh whether he took a photo

My only other clear photo was of its bum

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Era · 12/03/2024 06:32

Bum photo if that helps

Is this just a rat? (Don’t open if you don’t like rats)
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Era · 12/03/2024 06:35

Size wise (I’m not very good on size) I’d say about 20cm ish excluding the tail (but I will double check with he who is better at measurements when he’s back)

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AnImaginaryCat · 12/03/2024 07:18

Lucanus · 11/03/2024 23:32

@Magicpaintbrush and everyone else who thinks this is a vole - why don't you post a link to a photo of a water vole with a tail this long? It's equal to the head + body length. Likewise for the obvious ears - fur-covered in water vole.

This is also classic rat behaviour, and not at all what you would expect from a water vole.

Us Volers don't need to post a link to a photo of a Water Vole with its tail thar long because there's one in the OP 🤣.

How did it move @Era? (As in movements it made - rather than "on four legs"!)