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What will happen to restaurants / cafes

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LaCouleurDeMonCiel · 28/02/2024 13:15

Pre Covid / COL increase we would eat out as a family 1-2 a week. Eating out would often be spontaneous, places like Bills, Rosas Thai, pizzeria, etc. when we passed one while shopping or because we didn’t fancy cooking.

Now we have stopped the spontaneous meals because the prices are ridiculous. We still go out when we want to go to a specific restaurant or celebrate something but we don’t visit the casual low/mid range places because £100+ is too expensive for a quick ‘not that special’ meal.

Are we the only ones?
Will we see a change in the type of restaurants on the high streets? High end restaurants + cheap fast food ones but nothing in between?

OP posts:
TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 28/02/2024 18:30

Kelly51 · 28/02/2024 14:10

I watched a member of staff pat a dog which was licking her hands. She then went back to the counter and immediately started handling cakes. Some people might not care. We stood up, demanded a refund then walked out. I put a bad review on TripAdvisor.
You got a refund and gave them a bad review? aren't you a delight 🙄

Breaches of basic hygiene deserve to be called out, and people who might otherwise eat at that establishment need to be warned.

TheBayLady · 28/02/2024 18:33

TinkerTiger · 28/02/2024 13:56

Whoops 😂 and I had to reread it twice again before I even saw it! Gotta leave it now

Good for them but in the next decade most of the lockdown dogs will be dead, what will they do for customers then ? As a dog owner i will not use dog friendly eateries or hotels and i understand why non dog owners don't want to dine with dogs.

justaboutdonenow · 28/02/2024 18:36

We very rarely eat out (can't even remember the last time, but it was pre covid) but our local places are always heaving, to the point the roads surrounding the various pubs, restaurants, takeaways & cafes are filled with dangerously parked vehicles because their car parks are full.

rookiemere · 28/02/2024 18:38

Mummypete · 28/02/2024 18:02

It’s interesting what a pp said about restaurants being filled with 20 somethings. Our office is roughly split between those 30+ that own their own homes and those in their 20s still living at home with their parents. Although I could easily afford to buy lunch every day, that’s just not my priority so I always make sure to bring in leftovers and so do most of my colleagues that are in the 30+ category with mortgages and bills to pay. However it’s the 20 somethings living at home with lots of disposable income that come in with a coffee they’ve bought on the way to the office, go out and buy their lunch every day, visit the vending machine in the afternoon etc.

Maybe it's because for 20 somethings the big goals rarely seem achievable any more, so for many owning their own property is a pipe dream, ditto retiring at a reasonable age, therefore why not enjoy luxuries in the here and now .

Or it could just be a young person thing. I reckon if I had brought in my coffee and breakfast as I do now for all of my working life and put that money into my pension, I'd easily be retired by now ( I'm 53) but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

MarkWithaC · 28/02/2024 18:38

Kelly51 · 28/02/2024 14:10

I watched a member of staff pat a dog which was licking her hands. She then went back to the counter and immediately started handling cakes. Some people might not care. We stood up, demanded a refund then walked out. I put a bad review on TripAdvisor.
You got a refund and gave them a bad review? aren't you a delight 🙄

I'd have done the same, assuming by a bad review the poster means 'related seeing a staff member let a dog lick her hands and then handle food' rather than the more lunatic fringe reviews you find on TripAdvisor.

maddiemookins16mum · 28/02/2024 18:46

There are still millions and millions in this country who can afford to eat out.

OceanicBoundlessness · 28/02/2024 18:50

I tend to go for lunch with friends. Paying £20 per head is not so bad if it's only *1

I'm really sick of playing ££ for disappointing food so we're careful about where we go. Even the restaurant in town that everyone raves over was disappointing and no different to what we could name at home.

We noticed one of our local tapas places advertising for a chef, saying it would be ideal for a young person at college. The thought that it requires no more skill than a 16/17 year old might have put me off eating there.

CloudySheep · 28/02/2024 18:57

We go out less often but recently went to Lago Lounge (a chain with quite a few sites I think) on a random Tuesday. They only had one or two tables free while we were there with a steady stream of customers. There's another restaurant nearby that's often quite empty (a chain of 10 restaurants) but it seems to be popular on deliveroo. I do wonder if they'll give up the restaurant space and focus on deliveries soon.

hotpotlover · 28/02/2024 19:05

Most takeaways don't even taste great. They're either too salty or extremely bland.

We definitely eat out less than before.

Mimilamore · 28/02/2024 19:31

High end, set menus, every month or so or special occasions. Don't always have wine as price rockets up but experience good service and quality ingredients for, on average £30. Don't go into chains any more apart from spoons as coffee is refilled and there is room to linger if you need to use up time.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 28/02/2024 19:41

underthebun · 28/02/2024 17:46

apart from one Pret and a couple of Joe & juice in my area I don’t see the usual Starbucks /Mcs/ pizza express.
Trends for healthy /artisan foods will slowly push these places out of business.

McDonalds isn’t going anywhere!

That was an odd comment from the PP, what world does she live in.

CaramelMac · 28/02/2024 20:08

We used to eat out at least twice a week, but now the prices have gone up so much and with rising bills and stagnant wages we can’t really afford to any more, the other day we stopped for lunch, 2 kids meals and 2 katsu currys and 2 soft drinks was £70, and it wasn’t a fancy place, they don’t even have a loo! Fish and chips are over £15 each, even Pret sandwiches are close to £10 each to sit in.

Screamingabdabz · 28/02/2024 20:31

CormorantStrikesBack · 28/02/2024 17:01

Oh dear, that’s hard in somewhere like the Lakes where everywhere is so dog friendly. Someone once in the most dog friendly cafe in the Lakes shouted at me for “having a dog near my wife”. My dog was asleep under my chair. He told me to put my dog at the other side of the table 🙈

And this the problem - because somewhere is labelled ‘dog friendly’ it now translates to dog owners as ‘dogs take priority’.

If the dog just slept why didn’t you just leave it at home? Why does one even need to take an animal to a restaurant? That’s what baffles me.

willowstar · 28/02/2024 20:32

I worry too for the small business owners. We have lived in our town for a long time and know the restauranteurs on sight, always have a chat when we are in etc...but we just can't afford to go out much at all anymore. I have noticed that the prices have increased and in many cases the quality has decreased as well.

FinallyFeb · 28/02/2024 21:00

I don’t get takeaways but I eat out more than ever, around three times a week, twice for lunch and once for dinner.

Beezknees · 28/02/2024 21:04

Mummypete · 28/02/2024 18:02

It’s interesting what a pp said about restaurants being filled with 20 somethings. Our office is roughly split between those 30+ that own their own homes and those in their 20s still living at home with their parents. Although I could easily afford to buy lunch every day, that’s just not my priority so I always make sure to bring in leftovers and so do most of my colleagues that are in the 30+ category with mortgages and bills to pay. However it’s the 20 somethings living at home with lots of disposable income that come in with a coffee they’ve bought on the way to the office, go out and buy their lunch every day, visit the vending machine in the afternoon etc.

I'm in my 30s with a child and my own place and I'm still bringing in coffees to work! 😂

PerhapsaSillyQuestion · 28/02/2024 22:34

We've always been so carful about eating out because of low money. But we did go out much more than recently years.
I feel that services standards have gone down and food standards. I've been disappointed the last three times we've been out... Having said that I want to get for lunch on Saturdays more because that's cheaper and you can't go wrong with sandwich

Seasonofthesticks · 28/02/2024 22:35

Jaydenia · 28/02/2024 17:42

lunch for 2 in Zizzis, a salad each with a side of goats cheese, a raspberry drink with mint leaves in it and LOADS of ice so hardly any actual drink, a dessert each and two hot drinks with a tip - just under £70 - silly price, I do begrudge it but only 4 people in the restaurant! more staff than customers between 12.30 and 2.30 in a SE market town.

That’s crazy, I was just reading the thread thinking about the meal at Zizzi myself and my 7 year old had this weekend. Three courses each and two glasses of wine, £52! Didn’t think that was bad at all.

Seasonofthesticks · 28/02/2024 22:40

Screamingabdabz · 28/02/2024 20:31

And this the problem - because somewhere is labelled ‘dog friendly’ it now translates to dog owners as ‘dogs take priority’.

If the dog just slept why didn’t you just leave it at home? Why does one even need to take an animal to a restaurant? That’s what baffles me.

I assume because she walked there with the dog, or went to the pub as a finish to the dog walk.

MarkWithaC · 29/02/2024 09:07

CaramelMac · 28/02/2024 20:08

We used to eat out at least twice a week, but now the prices have gone up so much and with rising bills and stagnant wages we can’t really afford to any more, the other day we stopped for lunch, 2 kids meals and 2 katsu currys and 2 soft drinks was £70, and it wasn’t a fancy place, they don’t even have a loo! Fish and chips are over £15 each, even Pret sandwiches are close to £10 each to sit in.

What Pret sandwiches are close to £10? £3 for a tuna and cucumber, £6 or £7 I think for a tuna melt or a chicken and avocado.

Pardonnezmoimadame · 29/02/2024 09:25

Colinswheels · 28/02/2024 14:12

We have also cut back on restaurants and takeaways. Restaurants used to be a fairly regular treat but we just don't do it now after a low key meal in our local pub cost close to £100. This was two kids main and dessert, 2 adult mains and a small amount of alcohol. Same with takeaways, stopped after realising two portions of crispy seaweed from the chinese cost us a tenner - for cabbage!!! We tend to do brunch instead now if we go out. I have also stopped takeaway coffees and sandwiches when I'm at the office.

I worry about the impact on local restaurants as I don't want to lose them. Having said that some places still seem to be very busy so there is still money being spent.

It’s weird isn’t it? I think that meal in a pub would’ve been £70/80 before ….and two crispy seaweed maybe about £7?

but the result is we go out far less…you are probably spending less now by not going out for dinner at all.

I think we’ve all been spoiled the last 15 years. As a kid, dinner at a restaurant was a rare treat, and our family went much more than my friends. So many people only went to restaurants for birthdays and celebrations.

I think we’re going back to the 70s/80’s and not in a good way.

AllPlayedOut · 29/02/2024 09:44

If the dog just slept why didn’t you just leave it at home? Why does one even need to take an animal to a restaurant? That’s what baffles me.

Have you ever visited the Lake District? It’s a walker and dog owner paradise. It’s one of the most dog friendly areas of the UK and plenty of people take their dogs on holiday with them there(Not to mention locals out for a walk with their dog) There are numerous dog friendly shops and restaurants because the market is there so why wouldn’t they take their dog when they’re out with their dog and want lunch and businesses are actively welcoming them?

CaramelMac · 29/02/2024 09:47

MarkWithaC · 29/02/2024 09:07

What Pret sandwiches are close to £10? £3 for a tuna and cucumber, £6 or £7 I think for a tuna melt or a chicken and avocado.

There are a lot of tourist attractions near me, I don’t know if they put their prices up in different areas but last time I went it was £20 for me and a toddler and that was a sandwich each and one coffee.

AllPlayedOut · 29/02/2024 09:52

Good for them but in the next decade most of the lockdown dogs will be dead, what will they do for customers then ? As a dog owner i will not use dog friendly eateries or hotels and i understand why non dog owners don't want to dine with dogs.

Do you really think that dog friendly places are new? Sure there might be more of them
now but they’re far from new especially in very dog/dog owner friendly places like the Lake District. And I’d imagine that like many dog owners, when their dog dies, many of the owners will get another. People owned dogs before

I’m a dog owner and though I never take my 2 to restaurants or holiday because they’d hate it I’m more likely to frequent a dog friendly place because it gives me a positive impression of the place and also I want to see and pet some cute dogs. Not everyone is horrified by the sight of a dog whether or not they have one with them.

MarkWithaC · 29/02/2024 09:58

CaramelMac · 29/02/2024 09:47

There are a lot of tourist attractions near me, I don’t know if they put their prices up in different areas but last time I went it was £20 for me and a toddler and that was a sandwich each and one coffee.

I'm in a residential area of London, but I'll be interested to look when I'm next in the West End or somewhere and see if the prices are different.