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Should children be grateful?

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BoschBashBish · 25/02/2024 09:40

Ex lives in a small flat which he is doing up specifically to make it better for our children to stay there.

The thing is - he's been 'doing it up' for 5 years. Every time they go he has them 'help' with some aspect of it. He goes on and on and on about how he's doing xyz to the flat for their sake but none of these things ever seem to actually happen. They were initially excited when he moved there because the flat had a big garden and he told them all about his plans for fruit trees and play equipment in the garden. These things haven't happened and now the garden is unusable because it's full of building stuff and rubbish.

The children don't like his flat, they say it's always dirty and he never does the washing up, crockery and cutlery is never properly clean, bathroom is not nice etc. He says it's because he's doing the flat up, but I went inside once (this Xmas) and it was just piles of crap, rubbish on the floor, also building stuff but mainly just junk and stuff that's fallen and not been picked up and then got covered in dust where it lies.

As the children have got older they've stopped wanting to go there and now only the youngest still visits him.

He now says he's 'doing it up' for the children's sake, to get them to feel they want to stay again, and he wants them (and me) to be grateful for this.

Should they be grateful? I don't think so - he's had 5 whole years and done FA. It's not clean and tidy aside from the building bits. He only sees them once a month and otherwise is completely child free. He used to be a builder so he has the skills to do the work himself, he has so much time to do it, he just doesn't seem to get it done.

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daisydalrymple · 25/02/2024 09:50

How old are your dc and were they staying overnight initially? It doesn’t sound like somewhere I’d want my dc to stay and I’d be looking for an alternative to an overnight away from the flat if he can’t commit to sorting it out.
it doesn’t sound like something anybody should be grateful for, but the whole having the dc be grateful for him doing up his own place is all wrong anyway.

coffeeisthebest · 25/02/2024 09:52

Of course they shouldn't. He sounds like he is telling himself that but isn't actually doing anything.

Twiggylet · 25/02/2024 09:53

Surely young kids shouldn’t be staying somewhere so dirty?

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BoschBashBish · 25/02/2024 10:13

They are 10,13,15 - unfortunately I didn't know the state of it before Xmas. Contact is court ordered so I had no choice but to send them when they did want to go.

That's precisely it - surely having a home that is nice and suitable for dc to stay in is a basic part of being a parent except is exceptional circumstances. It's not something the children should earn somehow by being 'grateful'.

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Augustus40 · 25/02/2024 11:00

As children enter the teens it is very common to no longer want to visit the job resident parent.

Sounds like their father is a twat.

Augustus40 · 25/02/2024 11:01

Non resident.

RandomMess · 25/02/2024 11:24

Grateful for what? That they are such a low priority that after 5 years he still hasn't provided a basic clean tidy place for them to stay and he's made them help with building work?

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