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Can anyone help me identify the subject or artist?

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Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:01

I have this pen and ink drawing dated 1912 and signed with the initials GFK.

I would love to know who the girl in the picture was and/or who the artist. I am guessing the artist was a talented amateur, (as so many people seemed to be in the early 20th century due to the focus on teaching drawing at school).

I have had this drawing since I was a teenager - it was bought for me from an antique shop, so I know nothing at all about its background.

I know it’s a long shot, but I have been inspired to give it a try by another poster’s thread elsewhere in Chat.

Thanks in advance!

Can anyone help me identify the subject or artist?
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YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:03

Reporting for duty!

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:05

Thanks @YeOldeTrot ! It was bought in Blackpool, so might have originated in the NW.

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YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:08

Well, artists with those initials ...

George Fiddes Watt (15 February 1873 – 22 November 1960) was a Scottishh* portrait painter and engraver

George Frederic Watts* OM RA (23 February 1817 – 1 July 1904) was a British painter and sculptor associated with the Symbolistt movement )unlikely die to dates!)

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YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:14

That's very good @Crucible !

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:15

It would be lovely if it was done by a proper painter @YeOldeTrot - over the years I have imagined it being a young man dashing off a sketch of a girl he fancied! (Maybe I am being romantic!)

I used to think the initials were GFH, but now I think they are GFK. It’s a bit hard to tell.

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Crucible · 13/02/2024 22:15

My guess would be somebody in 1912 had the Barribal postcards and used them as a pencil drawing exercise.

YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:15

The image on That link by crucible is a postcard so this looks like something mass produced maybe? For the time

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:20

That’s very impressive @Crucible - it’s almost - not quite - identical- so I think you are probably right. I am guessing that it was copied rather than traced as the pen and ink doesn’t show any pencil lines underneath. That would also explain why it’s not exactly the same.

Thanks so much!

I still want to know who GFK was, but am guessing that’s probably too much of a long shot. Maybe a teenager at the time?

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YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:20

I think you've got it @Crucible

This is a drawing by someone who's been inspired by Barribal and his work.

YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:21

@Dee1224 yeah I'd say it's definitely been hand drawn as he (or she?!) looked at the image in front of him

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:22

Thanks also for the Pinterest link @YeOldeTrot

I am so impressed @Crucible and @YeOldeTrot - I wish I had asked earlier!

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YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:22

Well, he was probably a George Frederick as they were very popular names at the time. Francis maybe.

YeOldeTrot · 13/02/2024 22:24

@Dee1224 it's honestly the chucking about of ideas that eventually lead to the answer so don't give up on GFK yet! You already know more than you did in about ten mins so that's so good isn't it?

Crucible · 13/02/2024 22:25

Thanks
I would say GFK could be a woman. I'm happy to help with detective work.

Crucible · 13/02/2024 22:26

The model is named Kitty so you have at least that.

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:29

I do indeed @YeOldeTrot!

George Frederick/Francis are very good guesses!

…Now if only someone could tell me what on earth my impoverished widowed Derbyshire miner great grandfather, (who never went anywhere) and his two toddlers were doing visiting St Pancras on the night of the 1911 census, I would be very happy indeed! (Been researching my family tree and that’s a doozy!) 😹

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Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:32

Ooh yes, @Crucible - it could just as easily have been a woman who copied the picture - maybe for an art class?

My grandfather was a very talented amateur painter - I had a watercolour he did as a teenager but sadly it fell victim to mould when I was young and then it got lost in a house move😿

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Crucible · 13/02/2024 22:38

Indeed, respectable to copy, and an easily accessible art form.

Barribals wife was called Gertrude Louisa Fanny Pitt, she was his most frequent model. She isn't Kitty though, the face is different to the Gertrude pictures (an intriguing G....?)

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:39

I will have to read up on him @Crucible - I do hope Kitty wasn’t his girlfriend 😹

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Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:43

Whoever GFK was, (or his/her proud parent), was obviously pretty pleased with how the sketch turned out as it was mounted properly in a frame at the time of composition. It’s stood up pretty well over the years!

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Crucible · 13/02/2024 22:49

It's a lovely piece x

Dee1224 · 13/02/2024 22:51

Thank you @Crucible - it has great sentimental value for me as my DM bought it for me when I was a teen.

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