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Concorde

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clarkkentsglasses · 11/02/2024 15:32

Off for a Concorde experience this week for half term.

Has anyone here flown on Concorde?

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Cicciabella · 11/02/2024 22:03

I was crewfor BA we used to get deals. Went for purser promotion on it as Crew.
Difficult to work on and we had to sign a disclaimer for the cosmic radiation we were exposed to.

MargaretThursday · 11/02/2024 22:05

@NeverAHarvester
Show him the EAP (Experimental Aircraft Programme) then. That really was tiny.

British Aerospace EAP | BAE Systems

It was a prototype made by BAE back in the 80s for a future European Fighter Aircraft developed with ACA (Agile Combat Aircraft) in mind. Although the original idea never really was developed from the EAP as initially planned, the Eurofighter Typhoon owes a lot to it.

We saw it's maiden flight. It had been taxiing along the runway a lot that week, so we knew it was going to go up shortly. When they put other fighters up (Hawk and Tornado if I remember rightly) to clear the skies, we knew it was going up and rushed down to see it. It was very exciting to watch it and just watching it doing the initial flights was amazing.

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/02/2024 22:26

remember visiting the replica at Yeovil Air Museum when I was little. I never saw the real one although heard the booms occasionally as it flew over when we lived.

That's not a replica, it's Concorde 002, the second prototype that first flew in April 69.

SurreyMumOfOne · 11/02/2024 22:27

Sorry to be picky, but the Brooklands gate guard model is 40% of the size not 1:4. So depending on which way you look at it, either the model is quite big or the plane quite small in relation to the other!

@notimagain I definitely used that road you've marked across at Heathrow as "recently" as 2006, so it's not been all that long gone. I actually thought it went around the time they rebuilt T2.

notimagain · 11/02/2024 22:31

Pedallleur · 11/02/2024 21:43

Astounding engineering and I'm surprised it's not been reinvented as there seems to be more rich people than ever. Taxpayer funded yet the Govt wouldn't sell it to Branson.

The future in the short term is probably supersonic business jets..time is money in the business community so cash will be found for the fuel, and a smaller lighter aircraft, carefully shaped, doesn't generally generate a boom of the amplitude Concorde could produce.

As for Sir RB, yes he made a lot of fuss about Concorde, supposedly wanting it and supposedly being denied it by nasty HMG and big bad BA.

The reality was, and a big reason for the final grounding by both BA and AF, was that Airbus (who had inherited the design/maintenance authority from Aérospatiale, BAC etc) were no longer willing to provide product support, at least at a price anybody could afford. No product support, no flying.

If Sir RB had bought an airframe I reckon he'd have spent squillions just to fly it maybe just once in Virgin colours , simply to put two fingers up at BA, and then parked it up...I don't think he was ever serious about running it on scheduled services.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 11/02/2024 22:32

LeSoleil · 11/02/2024 16:21

All models were retired by the BA and AF after the crash at Gonesse in 2000. Gosh, that seems a long time ago now.

For a couple of years beforehand, I would often see it landing at Heathrow as I drove south to Sussex on a Saturday evening. Like a dart or a kingfisher, narrow, pencil-like, streamlined as it streaked above the M25 coming into land.

In the early 1970's I recall seeing some original charts at an air show explaining the original concept. Concorde was supposed to fly 44 injured troops back at a time from war zones to be treated quickly at regional hub military hospitals.

Interesting about the original concept, I'm sure it was limited to what airports it could use because it needed a longer runway.

LunaNorth · 11/02/2024 22:32

I did! Flew to New York in 1996. We were sitting in front of Bryan Adams.

I used to be a nervous flyer, but surprisingly I was fine on that flight. It might have been something to do with the champagne on tap in the Concorde Lounge prior to boarding 😀

I love that I’ve experienced the sonic boom and seen the curve of the Earth. It’s a privilege.

caringcarer · 11/02/2024 22:35

My 2 Aunties an Uncle flew on it years and years ago. They got a little plastic Concorde and had their photo taken next to it.

notimagain · 11/02/2024 22:37

SurreyMumOfOne · 11/02/2024 22:27

Sorry to be picky, but the Brooklands gate guard model is 40% of the size not 1:4. So depending on which way you look at it, either the model is quite big or the plane quite small in relation to the other!

@notimagain I definitely used that road you've marked across at Heathrow as "recently" as 2006, so it's not been all that long gone. I actually thought it went around the time they rebuilt T2.

I'm surprised it was operational that recently but I'll happily stand corrected...

I have enough trouble remembering where I've put the car keys these days but I certainly remember many happy jaunts on buses, various, using that crossing, and then at some point not being able to use it...

SurreyMumOfOne · 11/02/2024 22:51

@notimagain Apologies if it came across as a severe comment which was not the intention. More what I should have said was that I was amazed it continued as such for so long. Always seemed very weird, but it was a fabulous way to cut up to T1/2/3 than go all the way round on the motorway and in.

larkstar · 11/02/2024 22:57

I worked at the National Physical Laboratory in Teddington about 5 mles from LHR in the mid-late 80's so saw and heard it on quite a few occasions - magnificent sight, incredible noise!

notimagain · 11/02/2024 22:59

SurreyMumOfOne · 11/02/2024 22:51

@notimagain Apologies if it came across as a severe comment which was not the intention. More what I should have said was that I was amazed it continued as such for so long. Always seemed very weird, but it was a fabulous way to cut up to T1/2/3 than go all the way round on the motorway and in.

No apologies required, your comment didn't come over as severe at all...

Given how lots of security got tightened up quickly post 9/11 like you I'm surprised the crossing lasted as long as it did..

Eyesopenwideawake · 11/02/2024 23:01

What lovely stories. Thank you. I used to watch it fly over my bit of south London in the early 1990’s and thought it was magical.

HelpMeGetThrough · 11/02/2024 23:02

Also just remembered, an ex colleague of mines uncle was a Captain on Concorde.

EndlesslyDistracted · 11/02/2024 23:03

notimagain · 11/02/2024 20:48

Your memory may well be spot on.

Up to maybe 25 years back there was a public road that cut through the BA base over on the east side at LHR, it ran roughly from the Hatton Cross roundabout through the centre of the base and then joined the eastern perimeter road.

At one point that road crossed a taxiway that linked the two halves of the BA base and aircraft were sometimes towed (not sure if they ever taxied) between the two parts of the base, crossing the road as they did so. There were a set of big railway crossing type gates to stop road traffic when aircraft crossed.

As part of increased security that road got closed a few years back and you now have to route around the whole BA base to the East, you can’t cut through.

On the image below I’ve tried to mark where the road crossed the taxiway with a red line, Hatton Cross is at the bottom, the airport terminals are off image to the left. The previously mentioned Concorde is tucked way near the bottom left corner.

HTH.

Edited

Oh wow, thank you, yes it was a level crossing type thing with barriers, I remember just sitting there in amazement as it went past in front of me and you are right, it would have probably been being towed not taxiing. It was dark and it was all lit up. This would have been about 1988.

I was thinking about it a few months ago and google earthing, it was bugging me. I used to quite regularly cut through the airport. It never ceases to amaze me the things you can find out on MN.

TurquoiseDress · 11/02/2024 23:54

So many amazing memories!

I never flew on Concorde but I do vaguely remember seeing it at my cousin's house in SE London

We were in the garden when it flew over it was amazing to see

Pretty sure it was 2003 (I was having a few personal/life crises at the time!) sort of summer time but cannot remember the month

VeniVidiWeeWee · 12/02/2024 00:07

I think some people are mis-remembering. Concorde was never allowed supersonic speed over land, therefore no boom.

IntheSnowySnowyMountains · 12/02/2024 00:29

My Dad was a journalist (a proper old-fashioned one!) and was on one of the early Press flights. My DH is an aviation geek and was a little bit jealous when he heard that story!

BroccoliHighkicks · 12/02/2024 02:12

I was driving home near Windsor one evening and saw it going up up and away - everybody stopped their cars on the road and got out to watch, it was stunning.

QueenBitch666 · 12/02/2024 03:21

My Dad used to do regular courier work to NY. ( BA staff ) I'm eternally envious
My parents flew out to NY on Concorde
What a missed opportunity for me 😢

Ozgirl75 · 12/02/2024 03:27

I flew on it once when I was 16. We went to Barbados and it was amazing. From checking in, to taking off you felt like an absolute star. I wish I had appreciated it more but obviously we never knew it would come to an end.

I have done the Concorde experience at Brooklands and it’s fun. We also visited the flight museum near Edinburgh and it is really worth a visit if you love planes (my son is a total plane nerd). It’s so enjoyable, there’s a great display about Concorde plus the plane to go on. There’s also loads of other cool plane stuff including a whole area of “skills” to hone to make you a good pilot which was enormous fun. As a non plane nerd it was such a good day out and my son was beside himself with how awesome it was.

Cookerhood · 12/02/2024 05:06

I used to drive through that crossing almost every day, certainly into the 90s, & I remember watching Concorde taxiing through. I'd be very surprised if it was still open in 2006, though, given how security tightened up after 9/11. Off to Google to see if I can find out.

HelpMeGetThrough · 12/02/2024 05:26

VeniVidiWeeWee · 12/02/2024 00:07

I think some people are mis-remembering. Concorde was never allowed supersonic speed over land, therefore no boom.

You could hear it in Cornwall, when it got out over the sea.

Garlickit · 12/02/2024 05:40

tuvamoodyson · 11/02/2024 18:31

I read it was quite noisy when you were flying? Is that true?

Surely it would be silent after breaching the sound barrier? The engine noise would lag behind the plane, you wouldn't hear it from inside.

tuvamoodyson · 12/02/2024 06:06

I read somewhere that it was noisy…someone upthread said the same thing.