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Cultural differences Scotland and England

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CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 15:14

So surprised to see on a recent thread that in England secondary school pupils are often not allowed out of school for lunch until 6th form, which Google tells me means 16-18. I'm gobsmacked. I've never heard of anything like this in Scotland and I've lived all over the country (grew up in Glasgow and moved around in adulthood)

I also recently discovered that English school pupils can't leave education at 16. They have to stay in education til 18 unless they have an apprenticeship.

Got me thinking about cultural differences between the countries that I've maybe been oblivious all this time. Any others?

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Tarkan · 11/02/2024 19:07

They just used "outwith" when they were talking after the Scottish cup game between Airdrie and Hearts tonight. Grin I think it's when they were talking to Shankland.

Pollllo · 11/02/2024 19:09

Gingerkittykat · 11/02/2024 19:03

In my area (Fife) anyone can order them online, including mooncups and washable pads.

They always had huge displays in colleges where girls could help themselves.

I don't know how they distribute them in schools.

In public buildings (community centre, hospital) I've only seen boxes with a few pads in and you wouldn't be expected to take any home. I've not seen any available at the council leisure centre or my GP surgery.

Highlands council too, option to place an order online for mooncups, pads and disposables

Multipleexclamationmarks · 11/02/2024 19:10

I live in Manchester, my daughter lives in The Highlands. Differences I've noticed are -
In the chinese take out they put gravy in my chow mein!
When my grandaughter was born older people put coins in her pram.
She couldn't put a choice of schools, she was allocated one (don't know if this is everywhere)
They seem to say they stay places when I say we live somewhere.
The staff on the trains and busses are so much nicer in Scotland, and the trains/busses are much nicer.

Also Scottish tablet is god level food and Iron Bru tastes better in Scotland.
I'm English and say big light and nuggert, I have a living room and dressing gown.
Also, all the crap about Scottish not being friendly to English people - we've never experienced it, my daughter has lived up there for 10 years and never encountered it.

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Mrsjayy · 11/02/2024 19:12

FionnulaTheCooler · 11/02/2024 18:54

Unfortunately not just the West Coast, I'm in the East and we definitely get the Orange marches here. They need to get in the bin, its a disgrace in this day and age.

yes we have the same here it's not a west of the country thing ime.

mrstea301 · 11/02/2024 19:13

@StopTheBusINeedAWeeWeeAWeeWeeBagOChips @Notsuretoputit

I've been listening to a podcast recently where they were walking about fish suppers / fish and chips, and apparently in England the fish will usually have the skin on?! I would be horrified if I bought a fish supper and the (battered) fish had skin on - would defeat the purpose of it for me! 😂

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:16

Multipleexclamationmarks · 11/02/2024 19:10

I live in Manchester, my daughter lives in The Highlands. Differences I've noticed are -
In the chinese take out they put gravy in my chow mein!
When my grandaughter was born older people put coins in her pram.
She couldn't put a choice of schools, she was allocated one (don't know if this is everywhere)
They seem to say they stay places when I say we live somewhere.
The staff on the trains and busses are so much nicer in Scotland, and the trains/busses are much nicer.

Also Scottish tablet is god level food and Iron Bru tastes better in Scotland.
I'm English and say big light and nuggert, I have a living room and dressing gown.
Also, all the crap about Scottish not being friendly to English people - we've never experienced it, my daughter has lived up there for 10 years and never encountered it.

The coins in the pram is a hansel and is also put in a purse or wallet if you give one as a gift to someone.

You can put in a placing request for a school outwith your catchment but the vast majority don't.

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NotFastButFurious · 11/02/2024 19:17

No obvious option to order period products online here!

ToffeeSheep · 11/02/2024 19:17

ssd · 11/02/2024 18:57

But do they sell square slice???

Yes!

aylis · 11/02/2024 19:18

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 16:53

Walking home from school too. I’m in Scotland and after P1 (so P2 onwards) the kids are just let out at home time and you can be there to get them or they can walk
home themselves or with siblings or friends. It’s up to you. The schools don’t make rules on letting the kids leave or walk home from a specific age. I keep seeing on here that kids in England aren’t allowed to leave without a parent until they get to P4/P5 age at least.

My daughter's primary school doesn't let children P1-4 out without the child having a parent/carer/adult collecting them (or an older sibling from the adjacent high school). P5+ can leave on their own. I've always wondered if that was standard because I can vividly remember walking to and from school myself in P2!

Being in England this weekend has reminded me that Chinese takeaway food is COMPLETELY different to Glasgow. The closest I've found was Oxford but from Newcastle to Devon the same dishes are in general similar to each other but very different to Glasgow.

VampireWeekday · 11/02/2024 19:19

The drinking regulations used to trip me up, having to rush to the shop before they stop serving.

tuvamoodyson · 11/02/2024 19:21

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:00

Definitely say big light. Everyone I know says big light if they're Scottish.

Always ‘the big light’ in Glasgow

Ringpeace · 11/02/2024 19:22

Generally speaking, men in England don't wear skirts.

ssd · 11/02/2024 19:24

ToffeeSheep · 11/02/2024 19:17

Yes!

Cheers

Ringpeace · 11/02/2024 19:24

mrstea301 · 11/02/2024 19:13

@StopTheBusINeedAWeeWeeAWeeWeeBagOChips @Notsuretoputit

I've been listening to a podcast recently where they were walking about fish suppers / fish and chips, and apparently in England the fish will usually have the skin on?! I would be horrified if I bought a fish supper and the (battered) fish had skin on - would defeat the purpose of it for me! 😂

'Skin on' fish is a southern English thing, in my experience.

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 19:26

What do you say if the ceiling light isn’t a big one? Or it being Mumsnet, do you all live in massoooov houses with humungus chandeliers (bought with your six figure salaries) so it’s a moot point?

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 19:28

My adds school didn’t like the kids walking home alone before aged 8. Didn’t like them to be dropped off earlier in the playground before that age anyway.

Zanatdy · 11/02/2024 19:30

mitogoshi · 11/02/2024 17:47

Oh the the kids in my town can leave school at lunchtime - it's definitely a small town vs city thing

Can’t in my small home town anymore. I don’t know any secondaries that allow students out at lunch anymore and to be honest I’d rather mine stayed there (nowhere near my daughters school anyway even for sixth form)

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:30

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 19:28

My adds school didn’t like the kids walking home alone before aged 8. Didn’t like them to be dropped off earlier in the playground before that age anyway.

I went to primary school in the 90s and remember being the first to be dropped off in the playground. My parents had to get to work so I would float about by myself for a good half hour before anyone else turned up. After school club existed but no such thing as breakfast clubs.

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CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:31

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 19:26

What do you say if the ceiling light isn’t a big one? Or it being Mumsnet, do you all live in massoooov houses with humungus chandeliers (bought with your six figure salaries) so it’s a moot point?

It's not about the size of it. It's because it throws out more light than the lamps.

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SinnerBoy · 11/02/2024 19:31

CauleyMacGlochlin · Today 19:16

When my grandaughter was born older people put coins in her pram.

That's Silver for the Bairn, in Newcastle. Here's a song about it:

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NqF3NOIDQZY

Before you continue

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NqF3NOIDQZY

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 19:33

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:30

I went to primary school in the 90s and remember being the first to be dropped off in the playground. My parents had to get to work so I would float about by myself for a good half hour before anyone else turned up. After school club existed but no such thing as breakfast clubs.

The teachers at my DDs (Scottish) school would be having a word with your parents now but more schools have breakfast clubs now so I think the expectation is you’d be signed up to that.

Kerfuffleplunk · 11/02/2024 19:34

jm9138 · 11/02/2024 18:06

Couple of observations from someone who has lived in both England and Scotland and currently in Northumberland

First, just a point that the government tried relatively recently to allow local authorities to set their own Sunday opening hours and they lost because the SNP refused to back it (even though it would make no difference to Scotland).

Anyway, bigger thing I would say is linked to a PP. Each English region has at least the population of Scotland in it. Yorkshire has about the same population as Scotland for example and London several million more. The regions in England have as much cultural variation as the each of them has with Scotland. In some cases the words, food and attitudes might be closer to Scotland than to other English regions. Often on MN there is an English poster saying about Grammar schools or the like and I don’t feel I live in the same country. And even within regions (as is the case with Scotland) there can be really marked cultural variation based upon geography and history (so the old coal mining regions of South Yorkshire are notably different to York or villages on the North Yorkshire coast).

Ultimately though I would say broadly the culture is close enough across the UK that small differences stand out. By that I mean if you were to go to China and different regions there it would all feel so different that you wouldn’t notice the smaller differences between regions and it would all probably just feel ‘Chinese’ (even if you could speak the language)

Totally agree, I’ve lived across the north/ east / west and south of England at various points & there’s tons of regional differences, particularly with regards to rural areas, I don’t think there’s such a thing as “English” culture . I’ve had to learn a new lingo many a time! I imagine there’s differences across Scotland particularly comparing areas where people stay for the whole of their lives and marry within that area to areas that have a lot more movement of people.

Garlicdoughball · 11/02/2024 19:37

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:31

It's not about the size of it. It's because it throws out more light than the lamps.

Ah, ok. I seem to have missed this one.

Dearg · 11/02/2024 19:38

Notsuretoputit · 11/02/2024 18:54

No, it’s what we call white pudding.

It’s oatmeal pudding; basically oats, onions , suet , seasoning. It’s lovely.

CauleyMacGlochlin · 11/02/2024 19:39

@Garlicdoughball

I don't know. I've worked in various schools and although there are breakfast clubs there are also plenty of p4 upwards kids who float about the playground as early as half an hour before the bell.

And these are new build schools that have public access i.e., the playgrounds are not secure and people in the local community are free to open the gates and cut across the playground. Whereas my school was an old Victorian building with a wall and high fences round it.

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